Originally Posted by Tronic

T6 is derivative of Arjun? Links? And, Can you tell me the difference between the Arjun and the Bhim? They are entirely different class of weapons mate.

Yes, yes we know the Arjun is an MBT and the Bhim is a self-propelled howitzer. However, there is commonality between both their chassis. In fact, there are Bridge layers and Armoured engineering vehicles also based on the Arjun MBT chassis.

Regarding the Arjun...I can simply say that there is alot of foreign support. The armour of the Arjun is a variant of the British "Chobhem" armor. The integrated semi-automatic fire control system based on ballistic computer is also not Indian but rather provided by the Spanish company "ENOSA". Add to this the German "MTU" 838 KA 501 ten cylinder diesel engine.


DENEL, Elbit, IAI, Lockheed Martin, Dassault, and a whole list of other international defense companies have been very active in India, providing technical know-how where and when needed, it is no secret. But if that makes a system non-indegineous, then just how much indegineous do you think these new rifles and that Turkish turret you keep talking about are?

I know for a fact that the Turkish MBT and Turrets amongst other items are or will be 100% Turkish made. This is because the current Turkish Government has insisted on innovation rather than procurement. They are paying double of what it will cost to purchase in order to develop it themselves. Turkish Laws have also been amended in this regard. The current Turkish Prime Minister has stated that they expect Turkey to be one of the major weapons producing countries within 10 years. In fact, that is why a majority of US companies is having alot of trouble selling Turkey weapons.


DRDO for the entire Arjun project, but for the turret, more specifically, CVRDE.

CVRDE has had foreign support. This cannot be denied. There is evidence of this all over the web.



If they were all "joint-ventures", then all these weapons and the Indian defense industry would have been sunk during sanctions, my friend.