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Originally Posted by gunnut
Did you read what I posted? I was talking about how you mentioned SAMs, surface to air missiles, in antiship role. NOT Shipwrecks. Tell me how you can fire S300 in Shipwreck mode.
Enlighten me how you can have over the horizon radar unless it's located on the helo. For the sake of this thread, we're talking a single ship, not a battle group, no satellites, no gps, no nothing. Just what's on the ship.
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haven't you heard of bandstand type of OTH radar? (it bounces off ionosphere) The Russians have been putting that kind of OTH targeting radar + light bulb type of OTH datalink for a while now.
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And I've said that FOR THE SAKE OF THIS THREAD, if the Kirov had to close the range and use these missiles, she would be within horizon and subject to 16" bombardment.
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and as I said, they can perfectly track and target iowa from outside of visual range. And with targeting info from helix, they can send guidance info to S-300s. And then the S-300s can turn on the active seeker during the terminal stage. Not sure if it works like this in practice.
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Again, did you read anything I posted? In THREE replies? Can you fire S-300 over the horizon in anti-ship mode without any guidence from the ship?
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I've been telling you they have guidance. Why is it so hard for you to understand? Kirov was designed to be able to operate alone, to be able to target from long range.
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FOR THE SAKE OF THIS THREAD, it's a 1v1 fight, and Kirov has to close the range if she fails to destroy the Iowa from long range. SHE CANNOT RUN AWAY as it defeats the purpose of this thread.
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if it runs out of missiles, it will run away.
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The 30mm CIWS and SAMs might be able to intercept 16" shells. How many volleys of 30mm and how many SAMs does the Kirov carry? After launching those SAMs at the Iowa? How many 16" shells does the Iowa carry? At that range, it's simply a matter of who has more weapons to throw at the other side.
Close range slug fest, Iowa wins.
Kirov's only chance is to destroy Iowa at long range.
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192 gauntlet missile, 44 gecko missile, 6 kashtan (each kashtan carries 24 9M311 missiles + 1000 rounds) for air defense. This is assuming that S-300 are not being used to intercept shells (which would make no sense) I'm really not aware how many 16" shells Iowa carries.