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Originally Posted by tphuang
do you know how the Russians used their shipwreck missiles? How they were able to make use of the maximum range? If you did, you wouldn't be saying something like this.
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Did you read what I posted? I was talking about how you mentioned SAMs, surface to air missiles, in antiship role. NOT Shipwrecks. Tell me how you can fire S300 in Shipwreck mode.
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Originally Posted by tphuang
Even on top of that, they had a bunch of OTH radar that can detect a behemoth like Iowa. And on top of that, they had helicopters to provide targeting.
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Enlighten me how you can have over the horizon radar unless it's located on the helo. For the sake of this thread, we're talking a single ship, not a battle group, no satellites, no gps, no nothing. Just what's on the ship.
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Originally Posted by tphuang
as I said, all S-300 and SA-N-9 have secondary anti-ship mode. And it can always run away if it wanted to at anytime.
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And I've said that FOR THE SAKE OF THIS THREAD, if the Kirov had to close the range and use these missiles, she would be within horizon and subject to 16" bombardment.
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Originally Posted by tphuang
what anti-ship missiles out there don't use active radar guidance?
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Again, did you read anything I posted? In THREE replies? Can you fire S-300 over the horizon in anti-ship mode without any guidence from the ship?
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Originally Posted by tphuang
only chance? first, the obvious part is that the reactor on kirov allows it to sustain a higher speed. Then, even the shells still have to penetrate the close in defense systems of kirov. Not the easiest task to do.
This doesn't mean it can't be penetrated, but you have to use a lot of modern lo missiles + modern sensors.
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FOR THE SAKE OF THIS THREAD, it's a 1v1 fight, and Kirov has to close the range if she fails to destroy the Iowa from long range. SHE CANNOT RUN AWAY as it defeats the purpose of this thread.
The 30mm CIWS and SAMs might be able to intercept 16" shells. How many volleys of 30mm and how many SAMs does the Kirov carry? After launching those SAMs at the Iowa? How many 16" shells does the Iowa carry? At that range, it's simply a matter of who has more weapons to throw at the other side.
Close range slug fest, Iowa wins.
Kirov's only chance is to destroy Iowa at long range.