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Old 11-19-2007, 03:39 AM   #69 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Pablo Cortez View Post
While no fan of DeGaulle, he came to his way of thinking because of what he perceived as Anglo-Saxon machinations that had first pushed a reluctant France into a war she wasn't ready to fight, ignored efforts by his Free French because it was easier to ignore than to include them, and a willingness to sacrifice much of Europe to Stalin just to obtain an unconditional surrender. He was a pain-in-the-neck, but to dismiss him as a f***face and equate all France with him is the kind of foolish adolescent trash talk that makes diplomacy all but impossible.
Did you know the entire France was practically this hated "military industrial complex" during the inter-war period? France prepared 20 years for an attack by Germany. France was ready. France was more than ready to fight the Germans with or without the Brits.

You have to get your history straight. Revisionism doesn't work here.

Sacrifice Europe? Let me ask you one thing, what do you think of the casualty rate in Iraq right now? We lost 400,000 men in WW2. How many more are you willing to sacrifice to fight the Soviet Union? Do you support dropping the A-bombs in Japan? Because that's what probably would happen if we had fought the Soviets right after WW2.

Our men were tired. They didn't want to fight any more in a land far far away for nations that didn't exist any more. Settling with Stalin was the most humane thing to do at that point in time. We did eventually bring down the Soviet Union, thanks to your hated "military industrial complex."

Our military industrial complex did more to ensure the world's freedom than any of the hippie organizations concocted by the Euro leftists ever did.
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