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Originally Posted by JAD_333
It's about US vital interests and involves geopolitical issues which you apparently aren't interested in.
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Yes, we have created a regional nightmare by creating a large power vaccum. We have painted the biggest recruiting poster in Iraq for AQ with the blood of our soldiers.
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The cost in money and lives is unfortunate and weighs heavy on everyone who supports the war.
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No it doesn't. The only people who are touched by the war are the ones who have to see sons and daughters, husbands and wives brought back in 6ft wooden boxes. Unless you have a relative in combat, you haven't sacrificed anything for this war.
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But failure in Iraq, if it ever comes, will be because of people like you who have no understanding of what we're fighting for. To you it all money and bodycounts.
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Failure in Iraq is inveitable if we chart down this course. If we entrench ourselves in a broken foreign policy based on the ideology of a few, we will lose. The terrorists don't hate us because of our freedoms. Sorry, thats an explanation you tell six year olds. Here are the real reasons why they attack us straight from Bin Laden himself.
BIN LADEN'S FATWA (Why Ron Paul was Factually Correct) (UBL cited Iraq in 1996 Declaration of War)
We are losing our freedoms from the government faster than we are from terrorists.
I would also suggest reading this book:
Amazon.com: Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror: Books: Michael Scheuer
Yes I do care about bodycounts and money lost. We have lost almost 4,000 Americans to a war we should not have started in Iraq. Bin Laden was our enemy, Saddam was not a threat to the United States.
We have spent nearly $1,000,000,000,000 in Iraq, on top of the $9,000,000,000,000 we have in debt already. So yes, I'd say dead US soldiers and money does matter to me.
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Of course, when you're wrong, you admit it. But who is defining wrong here?
You are. I wasn't trying to make you look like a coward, but you do wear your belt awfully high.
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I'd say 70% of the American people are defining wrong and they are agreeing with me.
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Although the context was entirely different when Reagan pulled out of Lebanon, I'll give you that one, if you'll expound on all the wars we fought to the end and all the times we didn't pull out.
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The context was the same. Islamic terrorists, seeing American soldiers on their land, attacked us because they saw us as occupiers.
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I agreed with RR on that pullout because we weren't there to fight, but to act as intermediaries and there was no clear target to retaliate against. But keep in mind that we remained off shore and intervened with aircraft and ship fire.
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1983 Beirut barracks bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Besides a few shellings, there was no serious retaliation for the Beirut bombing from the Americans. In December 1983, U.S. aircraft attacked Syrian targets in Lebanon, but this was in response to Syrian missile attacks on planes, not the barracks bombing.