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Old 09-27-2007, 17:40 PM   #66 (permalink)
Ishapore41
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Originally Posted by JAD_333 View Post
Oh oh, there they are: the dreaded labels!! People often use them in place
of reasoned argumentation.

You know, there may indeed be a time when a leader has to back down, but wouldn't you agree that there are times when he should hold firm. It seems you believe backing down is a virtue and determination is comtemptuous. So, what do you mean by Bush needs to back down and what are these facts he's ignoring?
That Iraq is a failure? That it has cost us more money and lives that expected? Way more infact. Its a properly placed label as that is what they are, neo-conservatives. I guess Bill Kristol has no idea what he is talking about when he refers to himself and others like him as neo-conservatives.

I believe that when you are wrong, you need to admit it. Stop trying to make me look like a coward. Thats a fools game and what you are doing is engaging in a harsh, below the belt discussion.
Ronald Reagan put troops in Lebanon and said he'd never turn tail and run. Later on, the barracks were attacked and Reagan pulled troops out. He wrote in his memoirs that even though he said he'd never turn tail and run, he didn't understand just how irrational the people in that part of the world are. He changed his policy to suit reality.
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