Originally Posted by FullTank

It is good that the western countries are somewhat open to criticism and open to change. That has played a big part in thier progress.

Jesus was a good guy. He never fought or killed anyone nor preached violence. Whether he was son of god or not is immaterial, whether the bible is accurate or not is immaterial imo. A brit told me once that Jesus was nothing more than a politician in those times. So what...his means were good, and the message..

What is important the message he preached and whether his followers are following the message. Maybe he could have told something more to his followers..."guys only use ethical means..no violence..no lies..no ulterior ways". Did he say that?


The ones who taint the name of Jesus are the evangelists/proselytizers. Using propaganda and spreading lies about other cultures and religions is not moral or ethical. The terrorists use violence to spread the word and the evangelists use media and lies. How is using lies any less criminal than using violence?


Do good deeds but why have a ulterior motive behind it? Why do good deeds in the name of spreading religion? Why not do good deeds and leave it at that? Why have a ulterior motive behind that deed and taint the act? Why have a motive behind the act?

The terrorists use the front door to slam religion down your throat while the evangelists use the back door. Earlier the proponents of christianity used violence, now it is other means. This is all giving Jesus a bad name and nothing else.

Surely tell the good things about Christianity but why use media and international pressure to spread your ideology? Why use wrong interpretations of other religions and philosophies for your propaganda?

Why use incidents like Tsunami, poverty and other tragic situations to spread an ideology? Why work on the minds of the weak or a bad situation?

If you do not understand non Judeo-Christian-Islamic thinking and philosophy then leave it at that..

Why spread false things about it?..Why pick and choose stuff to cause confusion and despair? Is this right or ethical? A lot of misgivings in other parts of the world can be tracked clearly to the false information spread by the "peaceful" people and of course by using the famous divide and rule as well as using the media...spread wrong info as well as keep digging, digging, digging till something festers and blows out of proportion and then say hey we are the good guys. Come join us.

Where is the free thinking western media and people condemning these immoral acts?

Whenever you see some any wrong method of behaviour among followers of any ideology..if the incident is a few times or even a few dozen times then there is no reason to blame that ideology. But when you see consistent immoral behaviour from a group of followers of that ideology/religion/philosophy whatever then maybe there is something wrong that can be traced to the source of the teaching or the message(or the lack of message)..There cant be smoke without fire.

What is required is to modify/revise it in tune with the times, make changes to spread harmony and growth and free thought rather than a message/ideology and remove parts that are not in tune with the times.