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Old 09-14-2007, 22:00 PM   #96 (permalink)
JAD_333
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Originally Posted by xerxes View Post
why are you calling me liberal??? ...
xerxes, you said this...

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but it also certainly teaches to keep one's leftism (in my case) in check by applying rightism in order to keep centered. But how do we keep ultra rightism in ourself (not in my case) in check

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Then that is my ill understanding of that label. BTW, by "here" do u mean in the West, in the United States, in WAB, or in the this world?
I meant the U.S. the first time I said 'here' and WAB the second

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I do not equal ultra right wing to neo Nazis. Therefore, we are NOT seeing things eye to eye here. But if I would to follow your translation of the word "ultra right" and equal that to Neonazi and skinheads, then I can safely say that I have yet to see such member in this board, of the people who posts here ofcourse.
I didn't realize you had a different interpretation of ultra right conservative. Of course, labels cast a wide net. Generally, ultra right covers groups outside the political process, but one can be forgiven for misusing the term because partisan media often uses it as a kind of insult.

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You still DO have to tell me, what do you mean by "We here generally place that label on people". As you know we have different nationalities, background and ideas in this very international forum. As you know we do not all follow the same translation that America has for different terms and ideas.
We is the US. IMO, political labels are the same everywhere. Every political world has a center and you go from there in one direction or the other. It doesn't matter what the actual politics are.

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I challenge you to show one single post, where I describe myself as a liberal. If anything I am centrist.
Well, you said leftist...again your words
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but it also certainly teaches to keep one's leftism (in my case) in check by applying rightism in order to keep centered. But how do we keep ultra rightism in ourself (not in my case) in check

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I never totally disagree with anything. I hear all things and try to judge from a fair point of view. If American translation translates that into being liberal: so be it.
No, that doesn't translate into liberal. It's better. It's open mindedness. And I respect you for it.

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Dear JAD, if you care to notice, many people that I listed in the previous post as WAB's sources of technical information, have very diverging political views.
and I agree with most of their political views eventhough they are in complete clash with my own, simply because I am putting myself in their shoes and see things from their views. About yourself, I dont know you very well. I would probably rate you as someone with a balance view purely based on the underline phrase you wrote.
It seems you are saying you agree and disagree with their views at the same time, but I suspect that's not what you mean to say, because that would be impossible. I commend you for trying to understand views opposed to your own. It makes you a relatively rare bird.

If I misjudged your political leaning, I apologize. I was impressed with your post and have wanted to ask those questions of an open minded person, which you appear to be. I didn't realize, however, there might be a slight language problem. Cheers
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