If I may say, I am equally astounded and am yet to know of anyone remotely militarily knowledgeable that is, and even a peace time soldier to know anything about actual combat and war. Such is an experience that is so important to understand war and use of equipment as such. Theoretical knowledge and application is one thing for those who feel that some equipment is better than another while practical application in actual combat is another aspect and a totally different kettle of fish. But one can't blame such peacetime uniformed personnel if they have had no combat experience and instead base their whole service on peacetime pursuits and fun and games as competitions as baseline for expertise! Though it is commendable that such peacetime soldiers fondly remember the Centurion winning the NATO AFV competitions year after year with monotonous regularity. Sadly, a peacetime environment can never replicate a war or combat environment!
But then, armchair generals are more vociferous about their 'knowledge' and 'experience'.
Suffice it to say:
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M47s and M48s were again used in tank warfare by Pakistan against Indian Centurion and M4 Sherman tanks in the 1965 Indo-Pakistan War with mixed results. Although technically superior to the enemy's tanks (Indian Centurions and Shermans), the Patton failed to live up to expectations, especially in the Battle of Asal Uttar—where elements of Pakistan's 1st Armoured Division attacked an entrenched Indian position— and saw many Pattons being destroyed. The Pattons had a better outing in the Battle of Chawinda where it took out many Indian tanks, and indeed they were used with success by 25th Cavalry during its famous stand on the first day of that Battle[1]. It was later used in limited numbers by Pakistan in the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 with unimpressive results. In fact there was a place in Khemkaran in India called "Patton Nagar" ("Patton Town") that held 60-odd destroyed or captured tanks before the war trophies were relocated.
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