Originally Posted by dave lukins

Ray, I very much doubt that the Patton Taks were "far Superior" to the Centurion tanks during the fracas in '65. Not withstanding that Pakistan had 2 Armoured Divisions, and India only had 4 Armoured Regiments.(centurion) The Battle of Usal Uttar sorted the odds out when a huge amount of Pattons were destroyed. With a well maintained vehicle..a well trained crew..the Centurion would have certainly held its own against the Patton

I have never heard anyone, anyone militarily knowledgeable that is, claim the Patton series of tanks to be "far superior" to the Centurion. The Patton was adequate, and available in large numbers, and to be fair it was continually upgraded throughout its service life (in the US Army at least) including eventually getting the gun the Centurion used. The fact remains that the Patton was never really in the Centurion class (which also was upgraded during its long service). There are members of my old Regiment who will remember the Centurion winning the NATO AFV competitions year after year with monotonous regularity. Other than being massively outnumbered and out flanked, my money will be on the Centurion to dominate the firefight.

During the battle, Pakistan lost 97 Tanks which included 70 Patton...India lost 32 of which the majority were shermans