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Old 08-16-2007, 11:11 AM   #37 (permalink)
gdstark
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Originally Posted by beka View Post
I wanted to comment on this post. The UN was created to avoid World War III hopefuly. You cannot compare it to the League of Nations because the League had no teeth, and the USA refused to join it.
I'm not comparing it to the League of Nations.

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The UN isn't suppose to be a military alliance, it is suppose to be an organization that represents all of the nations on earth. The hope is that with dialouge we can hopefully prevent another World war.
Yes, but with the serious lack of success (Darfur, nuclear proliferation, and many many other tradegies) we can do better. Perhaps it's time for an organization that represents all the PEOPLE of earth, rather than nations. Expecting dictatorships to address issues of human rights is sheer folly.

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If you want to create a democratic UN, this organization will have no legitimacy to China, Russia, or any nation not included.
What? Exactly the opposite is true. If you recognize a dictatorship as a legitimate government, you perpetuate the dictatorship. We need to do exactly the opposite...work AGAINST dictatorships, which by definition works FOR the people under those very same dictatorships. And that should be our goal - support of the oppressed, not support of dictators.

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Eastern Countries, who for the most part would not be included, what consider probably another tool of Western imperialism.
It's important NOT to apply significance in what dictatorships believe or don't believe. They are dictatorships which by definition ONLY represent a handful of powerful people with guns.

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It could easily lead to a situation that existed before World War I, where you had military alliances being built up between different groups until all it took was a small fuse and a war broke out.
Unfortunately that's exactly what we have now. Nuclear proliferation is rampant. The only difference is that technology is allowing EVERYONE to own a nuclear weapon. In the past only superpowers had nuclear bombs. Today MANY nations can acquire them. If this keeps up, which seems likely under the UN, individuals will be buying their nuclear bombs on ebay. Possibly an exaguration, but I'm sure you understand the point. The danger has NEVER been greater. A change in how we manage world governance is urgently needed. If not the United Democratic Nations, what? I'm open to your solution to this problem.

gary
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