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nabilfannoush · 07-12-2007, 03:43 AM

Yeah, haven't they? It's amazing. You know for once I'd like when somebody makes statements like that, they'd let out whatever facts they have to base on them so us regular guys can decide for ourselves. At the office when that statement came out, we can't find anything that upholds or definitely negates it. It COULD have happened, but it can't be positively substantiated and frankly there isn't any relevance to what's going on there anyway, other than just prove that hussien's regime gets nervous about runaway radical movements that are of extreme islamic persuasion whatever their stated goals, if indeed this assassination happened in the first place.

Thanks for the shortcuts you gave me earlier by the way Ray...I didn't get back on the forum yesterday because it was my birthday and had the whole day planned for me

. Yes I am familiar with the texts. We have an extensive archive of documents and releases of this sort, and some embassies give them to us as well. One of my colleagues made us laugh a while back by showing us how they are all alike by compiling them together and come up with a template of a form one can fill out to 'establish the strategic goals to acheive in order to protect long term interests'. In the documentation you sent, all one has to do is replace 'us', with 'republic of Iraq', modify a few geographic and political refrences, change the letterhead and add a few Baathist slogans and it would look like something Saddam Insane cooked up. In fact he did, which is why he invaded Iran using some rushed slap-stick excuse, and after a failed 8-year bog of blood and mayhem, went after a conveniently weaker neighbor-kuwait- and earned himself an even more spectacular failure when virtually the whole world turned on him.
Such studies make for interesting reading, but quite a few of them fail because- largely due to political reasons- whoever wrote the silly thing simply ignores or is ignorant of the considerations of geopolitical situations and how targets would react to implementing these 'strategies'. You have examples of this throughout the last century, and some spectacular ones in THIS one, without getting into long details or repeating myself; I attended an interesting PhD dissertation on this. The irony is that if only the people drawing up such plans DO consider these matters, they can attain the desired goals with fair chances of success without substantial loss or even firing a single shot. In modern american history, no one understood this like Dwight Eisenhower; and today no one manipulates it successfully like China.

By the way, did you catch the news about the 'mysterious beast' spreading panic in Basra? It's a friggin Honey Badger. What's wrong with everybody?

07-12-2007, 03:43 AM	#41 (permalink)
nabilfannoush Regular Join Date: 05-28-07 Posts: 43	Yeah, haven't they? It's amazing. You know for once I'd like when somebody makes statements like that, they'd let out whatever facts they have to base on them so us regular guys can decide for ourselves. At the office when that statement came out, we can't find anything that upholds or definitely negates it. It COULD have happened, but it can't be positively substantiated and frankly there isn't any relevance to what's going on there anyway, other than just prove that hussien's regime gets nervous about runaway radical movements that are of extreme islamic persuasion whatever their stated goals, if indeed this assassination happened in the first place. Thanks for the shortcuts you gave me earlier by the way Ray...I didn't get back on the forum yesterday because it was my birthday and had the whole day planned for me . Yes I am familiar with the texts. We have an extensive archive of documents and releases of this sort, and some embassies give them to us as well. One of my colleagues made us laugh a while back by showing us how they are all alike by compiling them together and come up with a template of a form one can fill out to 'establish the strategic goals to acheive in order to protect long term interests'. In the documentation you sent, all one has to do is replace 'us', with 'republic of Iraq', modify a few geographic and political refrences, change the letterhead and add a few Baathist slogans and it would look like something Saddam Insane cooked up. In fact he did, which is why he invaded Iran using some rushed slap-stick excuse, and after a failed 8-year bog of blood and mayhem, went after a conveniently weaker neighbor-kuwait- and earned himself an even more spectacular failure when virtually the whole world turned on him. Such studies make for interesting reading, but quite a few of them fail because- largely due to political reasons- whoever wrote the silly thing simply ignores or is ignorant of the considerations of geopolitical situations and how targets would react to implementing these 'strategies'. You have examples of this throughout the last century, and some spectacular ones in THIS one, without getting into long details or repeating myself; I attended an interesting PhD dissertation on this. The irony is that if only the people drawing up such plans DO consider these matters, they can attain the desired goals with fair chances of success without substantial loss or even firing a single shot. In modern american history, no one understood this like Dwight Eisenhower; and today no one manipulates it successfully like China. By the way, did you catch the news about the 'mysterious beast' spreading panic in Basra? It's a friggin Honey Badger. What's wrong with everybody?