World Affairs Board - View Single Post - Reinvigorating the Canadian Navy, my idea

HoratioNelson · 06-16-2007, 16:48 PM

The Canadian Navy has always been somewhat underfunded and ignored by both the politicians in Ottawa and the general populace, because of the more prominent Canadian Army and Airforce. Before I launch into my plan for reinvigorating the Navy and make it a respected naval force, let me just say that I am NOT a professional, I don't know all the statistics about ships and weapons these days, nor am I an economist, I can't tell how many men it would take for these ships or what they would cost, nor am I a politician, I don't know about the need for these ships. This is just my personal opinion as a Naval enthusiast and as a future member of the Canadian Forces of what it would take to make the Canadian Navy a respectable fighting force. Also, there will an extra C in the hull classification codes, these stand for 'Canadian'. Ahem:

Firstly and foremost, there would have to be massive recruiting drives, to bring up our manpower to crew new ships. Training camps would have the be constructed all over the Eastern and Western coastlines to train new officers and crewmen. We'd have to build more of our existing destroyer and frigate classes to escort the new capital ships that would be planned and built. I estimate that four new ship classes would have to be built to reinvigorate our navy. These would be:

Blackfoot class Aircraft Carrier (CCV-6)
Length: 304 metres
Draught: 10.6 metres
Displacement: 60,000 tons
Naming Convention: Native tribes (i.e: HMCS Blackfoot, HMCS Huron)
Ships in Class: 2-3, maybe more in the future
Crew: 4,000+ officers and men
Propulsion: Electric engine if possible, eight or nine steam boilers just in case
Sustainable Speed: 35 knots
Aircraft Complement: 60-80 combat aircraft
Additional Armaments: RIM-7 Sea Sparrow missles, 2 x RIM-116 RAM, 4 x Phalanx CIWS

Arthur Currie class Battleship (CBB-1)
Length: 274 metres
Draught: 17.9 metres
Displacement: 45,000-50,000 tons
Naming Convention: Canadian military leaders (i.e: HMCS Isaac Brock, HMCS Arthur Currie)
Ships in Class: 4-5
Crew: 1,700 officers and men
Propulsion: Again electric engines if posible, steam boilers just in case
Sustainable Speed: 33 knots
Fire Control System: Mk.7 AEGIS ASMS along with a computer system purpose-made for the guns
Armament: 9 x 406mm guns in 3x3 turrets in the 2-A-1 configuration, 14 x 127mm guns in 7x2 turrets along the superstructure, 35 x Tomahawk cruiser missles and 18 x Harpoon anti-ship missles, all in VLS launchers, and 6 x Phalanx CIWS

Vancouver class Guided Missile Cruiser (CCG-1)
Length: 170 metres
Draught: 12 metres
Displacement: 12,000 tons
Naming Convention: Canadian cities (i.e: HMCS Ottawa, HMCS Montreal)
Crew: 700 officers and men
Ships in Class: 6-8
Propulsion: Like the others, electric if possible
Sustainable Speed: 30 knots
Fire Control System: Mk.7 AEGIS ASMS
Armament: 8 x Harpoon AShMs, 22 x of Tomahawk cruise missles, 35 x Shipwreck AShms, 15 x SM-2 surface-to-air missiles, 4 x Phalanx CIWS, 4 x 127mm all purpose guns in 4x1 turrets

Robert Borden class Destroyer (CDD-66)
Length: 119 metres
Draught: 14 metres
Displacement: 5,400 tons
Naming Convention: Canadian prime ministers (i.e: HMCS Mackenzie King, HMCS John A. Macdonald
Ships in Class: 10-12
Crew: 300 officers and men
Propulsion: Electric if possible
Sustainable Speed: 29+ knots
Fire Control System: Mk.7 AEGIS ASMS, and another purpose-made computer system for guns
Armament: 32 x Standard SAMs, 4 x 76mm guns in 4x1 turrets, 2 x Phalanx CIWS, 4 x Harpoon AShMs.

All the cruise missiles on these ships would be in VLS launchers. All the hulls of the new ships would be in the tumblehome design to minimise radar crossection. Prairie-Masker noise reduction systems on both the main hull and propellors of these ships would be used to help mask the ship from sound indentification. Each gun-armed ship would carry both AP and HE ordnance to suit the situation. Permanent naval squadrons would be established, each consisting of one CVBG centered around a carrier, a battleship and numerous escorts.

Well, that's my idea for reempowering the Canadian Navy. Thoughts? Comments?

06-16-2007, 16:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
HoratioNelson Regular Join Date: 06-16-07 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 47 Country:	Reinvigorating the Canadian Navy, my idea The Canadian Navy has always been somewhat underfunded and ignored by both the politicians in Ottawa and the general populace, because of the more prominent Canadian Army and Airforce. Before I launch into my plan for reinvigorating the Navy and make it a respected naval force, let me just say that I am NOT a professional, I don't know all the statistics about ships and weapons these days, nor am I an economist, I can't tell how many men it would take for these ships or what they would cost, nor am I a politician, I don't know about the need for these ships. This is just my personal opinion as a Naval enthusiast and as a future member of the Canadian Forces of what it would take to make the Canadian Navy a respectable fighting force. Also, there will an extra C in the hull classification codes, these stand for 'Canadian'. Ahem: Firstly and foremost, there would have to be massive recruiting drives, to bring up our manpower to crew new ships. Training camps would have the be constructed all over the Eastern and Western coastlines to train new officers and crewmen. We'd have to build more of our existing destroyer and frigate classes to escort the new capital ships that would be planned and built. I estimate that four new ship classes would have to be built to reinvigorate our navy. These would be: Blackfoot class Aircraft Carrier (CCV-6) Length: 304 metres Draught: 10.6 metres Displacement: 60,000 tons Naming Convention: Native tribes (i.e: HMCS Blackfoot, HMCS Huron) Ships in Class: 2-3, maybe more in the future Crew: 4,000+ officers and men Propulsion: Electric engine if possible, eight or nine steam boilers just in case Sustainable Speed: 35 knots Aircraft Complement: 60-80 combat aircraft Additional Armaments: RIM-7 Sea Sparrow missles, 2 x RIM-116 RAM, 4 x Phalanx CIWS Arthur Currie class Battleship (CBB-1) Length: 274 metres Draught: 17.9 metres Displacement: 45,000-50,000 tons Naming Convention: Canadian military leaders (i.e: HMCS Isaac Brock, HMCS Arthur Currie) Ships in Class: 4-5 Crew: 1,700 officers and men Propulsion: Again electric engines if posible, steam boilers just in case Sustainable Speed: 33 knots Fire Control System: Mk.7 AEGIS ASMS along with a computer system purpose-made for the guns Armament: 9 x 406mm guns in 3x3 turrets in the 2-A-1 configuration, 14 x 127mm guns in 7x2 turrets along the superstructure, 35 x Tomahawk cruiser missles and 18 x Harpoon anti-ship missles, all in VLS launchers, and 6 x Phalanx CIWS Vancouver class Guided Missile Cruiser (CCG-1) Length: 170 metres Draught: 12 metres Displacement: 12,000 tons Naming Convention: Canadian cities (i.e: HMCS Ottawa, HMCS Montreal) Crew: 700 officers and men Ships in Class: 6-8 Propulsion: Like the others, electric if possible Sustainable Speed: 30 knots Fire Control System: Mk.7 AEGIS ASMS Armament: 8 x Harpoon AShMs, 22 x of Tomahawk cruise missles, 35 x Shipwreck AShms, 15 x SM-2 surface-to-air missiles, 4 x Phalanx CIWS, 4 x 127mm all purpose guns in 4x1 turrets Robert Borden class Destroyer (CDD-66) Length: 119 metres Draught: 14 metres Displacement: 5,400 tons Naming Convention: Canadian prime ministers (i.e: HMCS Mackenzie King, HMCS John A. Macdonald Ships in Class: 10-12 Crew: 300 officers and men Propulsion: Electric if possible Sustainable Speed: 29+ knots Fire Control System: Mk.7 AEGIS ASMS, and another purpose-made computer system for guns Armament: 32 x Standard SAMs, 4 x 76mm guns in 4x1 turrets, 2 x Phalanx CIWS, 4 x Harpoon AShMs. All the cruise missiles on these ships would be in VLS launchers. All the hulls of the new ships would be in the tumblehome design to minimise radar crossection. Prairie-Masker noise reduction systems on both the main hull and propellors of these ships would be used to help mask the ship from sound indentification. Each gun-armed ship would carry both AP and HE ordnance to suit the situation. Permanent naval squadrons would be established, each consisting of one CVBG centered around a carrier, a battleship and numerous escorts. Well, that's my idea for reempowering the Canadian Navy. Thoughts? Comments? Last edited by HoratioNelson : 06-16-2007 at 17:45 PM.