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Old 05-30-2007, 07:37 AM   #89 (permalink)
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Well BigK, you made a rather lengthy post above. In it there is only one paragraph regarding the extermination of the Armenians, and this is what it says:

Those massacres which occur among the Armenians are most often the work of the Kurds


The age-old charge against the Turks is of course the Armenian massacres. A journalist not long since tabulated the reports of these massacres in recent years and showed that they totaled thirty-five million slain. As the whole Armenian population is known never to have exceeded three million, there is obviously a case of falsification somewhere. The Bryce reports have been proved to be without tangible evidence and to have been based entirely on hearsay. It has been remarked that investigation in the villages where Turks were in the minority would have revealed just as many instances of Greeks and Bulgars massacring Turks. Indeed it is notable that the Greeks and Bulgars accuse each other of such atrocities much more than they accuse the Turks. The situation is of course the result of an age-long conflict between different peoples who have become almost inextricably mixed politically. Those massacres which occur among the Armenians are most often the work of the Kurds, who are roving bands about as lawless as the mobs in parts of the American South, and about as out-of-hand politically as the banditti who infest parts of Italy and Spain.


Now, I'll delete the parts that do not refer to the extermination of Armenians, but instead talk about how 'uncivilized' the Greeks, Bulgars and Kurds are.


Those massacres which occur among the Armenians are most often the work of the Kurds


The age-old charge against the Turks is of course the Armenian massacres. A journalist not long since tabulated the reports of these massacres in recent years and showed that they totaled thirty-five million slain. As the whole Armenian population is known never to have exceeded three million, there is obviously a case of falsification somewhere. The Bryce reports have been proved to be without tangible evidence and to have been based entirely on hearsay. Those massacres which occur among the Armenians are most often the work of the Kurds.


So, what we are left with is the following:

1. A journalist (who?) allegedly added up various reports (what methodology?) and came up with a total of 35,000,000 Armenians supposedly exterminated, which is 10 times larger than the total population at the time.

2. The Bryce reports have been 'proven' (where? by who?) to be lacking evidence and based on hearsay.

3. It was the Kurds who exterminated the Armenians, not the Turks.

So, out of a massive post we have 3 simple assertions that are just stated and without any proof or supporting evidence themselves. In particular, no one that actually recognizes the historical truth of the extermination of the Armenians actually claims that the total killed is 35 million or anywhere near that figure. So that point is just a total red herring designed to attempt to discredit legitimate claims. Regarding the Kurds, those supporting the historical truth of the extermination of the Armenians confirm that the Kurds did assist the Turks in the mass killings. However, the participation of Kurds does not exonerate the Turks. Finally we have a totally unsubstantiated claim regarding the Bryce report. Do you actually believe that this 'garbage', or requiring anyone to sift through such a volume of text in order to extract 3 unsupported claims, is likely to convince anyone?
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