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Old 05-14-2007, 07:12 AM   #61 (permalink)
Garry
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Originally Posted by Shek View Post
Garry,

Americans may have conflated 9/11 and Iraq, but the war wasn't based on 9/11. Sorry, I paid attention to the build up to the war, and other than the Atta - Prague link which was never sold as a definite contact in my mind, there was no Saddam supported 9/11 case being made.

Instead, it was built upon the WMD that Saddam possessed and never accounted for, resulting in over a dozen UN resolutions, blah, blah, blah.

Now, the case for the war was seen through the lens of 9/11, but this is different than it being built upon 9/11. Feel free to conflate this if you like, as many Americans did, but that doesn't make it correct.
Hi Shek, for me it is not important to prove that they were selling it wrong... what statements were made.... and which were then drawn back later. The blaiming game will go on now with or without our will.

The problem is that it was BOUGHT on wrong arguments... Many really were relating Iraq to 9/11 and WMD.... and that is why it is harder to sell support to the operation now when those arguments turned wrong.

I am trying to understand now - IF AMERICANS WILL STAY.... or if they would leave..... Unfortunatelly, the problems with initial pre-war campaign is that it makes very hard to gain support now and that is why probability of early leave is rather high => The international fundamentalist community you are facing now would search for new playgrounds (probably start from Afghanistan/Pakistan).

The operation needs domestic support.... as it would be a lot of PR strickes from insurgents before situation gets stable... when nation is united it can withstand much more.... however when it is divided over the basic question - Why we are there? PR war from insurgents may be effective.

ps. How is situation in Bagdad? Do you estimate that enforcements would be capable to stabilize situation in a year?
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