World Affairs Board - View Single Post - In Kashmir, Abuses Bruise Hopes for Peace

Samudra · 09-10-2004, 07:36 AM

1.You lobby brother asim, but do you really think it has the remotest remote chance of being accepted by Pakistan.....See Pakistan , yesterday and today does not care about the Kashmiri "cause".Tis only a excuse for those people.The seeds of hate have been sown among a certain people in Pakistan.aint it ?
Kashmir or no Kashmir , certain Pakistanis are just wanting Indias elimination even if we are prepared for peace.You have to understand that.Do you ?

2.Human Rights abuses and Massacres in Kashmir.Now nobody has proved it , including Baker who needs to be baked

. What they do is , they claim, they heap allegations.why do you have to come here and keep telling us the same thing again and again.Do you really think we do that ? Check our census data about how muslim population is growing.Sure there are abuses.But certainly nowhere remotely close to the gargantuan figures quoted by Pakistanis.I mean here we have a whole state , and a huge force gaurding it .The sepoy on road is expecting a grenade anytime.Sure if he suspects some one , get ready for a dress-down evening.We acknowledge those and we try to rectify those errors.
The no of such abuse cases are rare enough to be classifed as "Needs Improvement".Not bad , worse or deep_in_sh$t.You have to understand that.Do you ?

Do tell me how can i help it when you heap allegations , or atleast 'subtly' heap allegations without any basis and pages of over exaggerations.I aint buying that.

Here we are indians who have been invaded so countless number of times being moderate and righteous(Prithvi raj let off Mohammed of Ghori once ) towards our enemies.It hurts to see the invasion continue.

Being unfortunate enough to know about these invasions,loss of our cultures and mass migrations does invoke some anger naturally towards Pakistanis when they claim to be descendants of such invaders and now i see it as another invasion of Kashmir.

(my ancestors migrated down south , when our then "nation" was taken over by Allaudin Khilji and the King taken prisoner and he died en route to delhi approx 400 year?s before .You want the dynasty's name ? Kakatiya)

It aint merely a peice of land or about kashmiris alone.The roots run deep and you have to make an effort to understand that.Do you ?

However that aggression doesnt stem its roots from false pride,racism , nazism, or any ism.Its a reaction. And you may rest assured that i aint a member of an indooo rightist extreme rights right wing organisation.

BTW , any info above is only an explanation for my "swatting" of Pakistanis , and i dont really think we need to argue about those , except about the topic at hand i.e Kashmir !

Asim
As for me , viewing you as my enemy ,rest assured that when you come over to some other thread and post something that i agree with , i wont run your post down.

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Samudra *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 09-01-04 Location: North London Posts: 4,364 Country:	1.You lobby brother asim, but do you really think it has the remotest remote chance of being accepted by Pakistan.....See Pakistan , yesterday and today does not care about the Kashmiri "cause".Tis only a excuse for those people.The seeds of hate have been sown among a certain people in Pakistan.aint it ? Kashmir or no Kashmir , certain Pakistanis are just wanting Indias elimination even if we are prepared for peace.You have to understand that.Do you ? 2.Human Rights abuses and Massacres in Kashmir.Now nobody has proved it , including Baker who needs to be baked . What they do is , they claim, they heap allegations.why do you have to come here and keep telling us the same thing again and again.Do you really think we do that ? Check our census data about how muslim population is growing.Sure there are abuses.But certainly nowhere remotely close to the gargantuan figures quoted by Pakistanis.I mean here we have a whole state , and a huge force gaurding it .The sepoy on road is expecting a grenade anytime.Sure if he suspects some one , get ready for a dress-down evening.We acknowledge those and we try to rectify those errors. The no of such abuse cases are rare enough to be classifed as "Needs Improvement".Not bad , worse or deep_in_sh$t.You have to understand that.Do you ? Do tell me how can i help it when you heap allegations , or atleast 'subtly' heap allegations without any basis and pages of over exaggerations.I aint buying that. Here we are indians who have been invaded so countless number of times being moderate and righteous(Prithvi raj let off Mohammed of Ghori once ) towards our enemies.It hurts to see the invasion continue. Being unfortunate enough to know about these invasions,loss of our cultures and mass migrations does invoke some anger naturally towards Pakistanis when they claim to be descendants of such invaders and now i see it as another invasion of Kashmir. (my ancestors migrated down south , when our then "nation" was taken over by Allaudin Khilji and the King taken prisoner and he died en route to delhi approx 400 year?s before .You want the dynasty's name ? Kakatiya) It aint merely a peice of land or about kashmiris alone.The roots run deep and you have to make an effort to understand that.Do you ? However that aggression doesnt stem its roots from false pride,racism , nazism, or any ism.Its a reaction. And you may rest assured that i aint a member of an indooo rightist extreme rights right wing organisation. BTW , any info above is only an explanation for my "swatting" of Pakistanis , and i dont really think we need to argue about those , except about the topic at hand i.e Kashmir ! Asim As for me , viewing you as my enemy ,rest assured that when you come over to some other thread and post something that i agree with , i wont run your post down.