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Old 09-07-2004, 20:01 PM   #25 (permalink)
Anony
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Originally Posted by Praxus
The Jews in Israel are almost all from Europe(Russia Included). It isn't an ethnic battle, it's not a battle over the color of ones skin. It's a holy war being waged against the state of Israel, and it is their right to defend themselves.
Ok its good that you changed your attitude about the ethnic origin of palestenians. Now what holy war are you talking about. Is it a holy war between "Muslims and Christians" vs "Jews and Druze" ? Because again Israel is not 100% jewish neither is its army, and the the palestenian's houses that are being bulldozed to be replaced with walls and Israeli settlements are not only muslim, but are also christian. I personally know alot of Christian Palestenians, and you cannot deny their existance. Not all Jews are for Israel, and not all Israelis are Jews. Just like not all Arabs are Muslims, and not all Muslims are Arabs.

Oh in case you meant holy war in case of "Jihad". Let me tell you the true meaning of Jihad as I am a Muslim myself. Jihad means struggle against evil. Major Jihad is to better one's personality, character and improve one's manners. Minor Jihad is what the media likes to call a "terrorist war". One is not allowed to wage war unless its one's enemy who starts the conflict and there is no other solution possible. There are also rules for this war. You cannot destroy any building which is used to worship God, and that includes a Synagogue. Contrast this with the Churches and Mosques which the IDF destroyed in Betlehem, a town with a Christian majority.

The following are the Quran quotes I will include to prove my point to stop this nonsense spreading about "Islam vs Civilization" on this forum. You can check them out in full context if you are interested.:

"Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If God had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: Therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (Guarantees of) peace, then God Hath opened no way for you (to war against them). (The Noble Quran, 4:90)"

"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"

[002:256] Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God hath grasped the most trustworthy hand- hold, that never breaks. And God heareth and knoweth all things.


[076:007] They perform (their) vows, and they fear a Day whose evil flies far and wide.
[076:008] And they feed, for the love of God, the indigent, the orphan, and the captive,-
[076:009] (Saying),"We feed you for the sake of God alone: no reward do we desire from you, nor thanks.

"If thou dost stretch thy hand against me, to slay me, it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee: for I do fear God, the cherisher of the worlds. (The Noble Quran, 5:28)"



I would just like to make it clear that the hostage takings in Iraq are against Islam. You cannot even kill unarmed soldiers and you should treat captives with respect according to the Quran. They are just trying to get political objectives through unIslamic ways. And again people should realise that the followers of a religion does not necessarily reflect the religion.
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