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Originally Posted by nutter
Heh i never found the F4 to be that ugly :D
One of my fave aircraft actually, though it *is* definitely from the school of "brute force and ignorance" type flight. Pretty sure it's kill ratio improved with the top gun stuff when pilots learned to fly the energy fight with it rather than try and make it turn :D
Back in it's day, it actually held a few time to climb and speed records for a while if i remember properly?
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Its kill ratio went up as a consequence of it getting a gun, as well as better air-to-air skills for its crews.
Missiles just weren't very good back then, and putting an energy fighter like the F-4 with missiles-only armament up against angles fighters like various MiGs with guns and missiles was asking for a hard lesson. Our other, more sensibly-armed fighters were doing better BECAUSE they carried guns.
Once the F-4Ds started showing up with gun pods, and the F-4Es with the internal gun came on line...watch out, Charlie.