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Old 03-01-2007, 02:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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- Alqaeda is an organization. Iran is a country.
- Alqaeda can rely on the planning of few people, having limited resources and limited time to react. Iran can rely on the planing of big organizations having much more resources and having as much time as required.
- Iran can use time to its advantage. Time is playing against alqaeda, or at least, alqaeda do not have the time luxury. An argument like let us prepare ourslefs now and build our power so that we will be ready in 10 years is not an argument that alqaeda can use. There is no harm for Iran to wait 10, 20 years even more. The more they wait, the stonger they become and the more their plan is likely to succeed.
- Alqaeda has ennmies only. Iran has Allies, Friends and ennemies.
- Alqaeda has nothing to offer to its allies. Iran can offer money, weapons, traning, safe heaven…
- Alqaeda can only use its military force. Iran has a big army, is a strong country, has a big reserve of petrol and control a strategic area including the hurmoz streight.
- Alqaeda is under troumendous pressure. Iran is not.
You got to me kidding me, linking Iran to Al-Qaida, which was by allright United Glorious States handiwork and creation

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The situation in Iraq
Today all the world agrees that Saddam hussein was a big criminal, he commited too many crimes. But I also think that all the world agrees on the following:

Suddam hussein regime was a regime controlled by Sunna, he used to keep the Iraqi Chia away from Iran, and used to keep Iran away from the rest of the arab countries. He used to consider fighting Sunna extremism as a question of death or life for his regime.
Iraq was a kind of wall between Iran and the rest of the world, between Iran and it ambitions, between Iran and the Shia majority of Iraq.

So What are the problems US is facing today in Iraq?
1- Sunna extremism.
2- Iran influence on the Iraqi chia, that is transforming Iraqi chia to a part of Iran.
3- Iran interference in the other countries, and its will to become a regional and nuclear power.
I can agree with that, ... though i am curious, do you consider US invasion of Iraq as an interference in Iraqi affairs or not??

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Ironically, if you ask yourself today how to resolve the iraqi problems and what do we need in Iraq, the answer is very easy.
Iraq needs a strong sunni man, with a strong regime, who will fight the sunna terrsorism, and will keep Iraq chia away from the influence of Iran, also who will keep Iran away from its dream of controlling the area. So can we say that today we need a saddam hussein in Iraq? It is clear that Saddam was a criminal, but it is also true that the US and the west still support other criminal in other places in the world.
So basically, you want a Sunni dictator to rule over Shia majority .... Americans made a mistake regarding Saddam, that I agree... But unfortunatly, the dam is broken. A sunni dictatorial regime can never rule back Iraq

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The great wall of China has fallen

- Iraq was the wall between Iran and it ambitions to take over the region.
- Iraq was the wall between Iran and it ambitions to take control the petrol of the region,
- Iraq was the wall between Iran and it ambitions to export its islamic revolution to the MEA and may be latter in the word.
- Iraq was the wall between Iran and its first step. The first step in the Iranian plan to control the area was control aver Iraq so that it control Iraq’s petrol, and also create a alliance with the chia in Iraq.
- Iraq was the wall between Iran and the arab contries, between Chia and muslims.

Iraq was that great wall. And that wall has just fallen.
You got to be kidding me if you think Iran wants export Shiasm in to America or to world ... where is Stan and all those people who always laugh at muslims claims about Jewish infuence in Washington, but yet they believe all these things ... lol

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The war in Iraq: A dream come true to Iran
Let us imagine for a second that Iran (ahmedinajad and Kahminaii) are given the chance to give orders to the US army in Iraq, what sort of orders would they give?
US Constituion explicity says that US president is the commander-in-chief of the US Armed Forces . How do you suggest that ahmedinajad and Kahminaii (Khamenei??) give such order to US Army forces?

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They will tell them attack falloujah till you take out the last militant. Go after the Sunni insurgents all over iraq. Stay there as much as you like. 1 year, 2 year, 5 years. No problem we can wait. How ever make sure before you leive to distroy the last standing sunni militant. Make sure to train our Chia brothers, give them weapons and money. Train their army. As for you our brothers in Iraq, keep a low profile for now is not the time. The time will come. Learn from what alqaeda did in their fight against the soviets when they took US as their allies.
The power-base of the Malaki regime are the Al-Sadr's Shia miltia. US cannot put too much pressure on them, otherwise, Malaki will have some real problem. You sound to have some problems with the Sunni insurrgency being crushed by US Army forces. Why is that???? .... speaking of alqaeda, maybe you are forgetting that part of the Sunni insurrgency is of alqaeda ....

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What is happening today in Iraq, is like the US army is taking its orders from Iran.
That is not truth. Please do not say that. Again, US Constituion explicity says that US president is the commander-in-chief of the US Armed Forces . In case of Malaki and his powerbase, there is a certain ammount of pressure that US can put on them.

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Every US soldier beeing killed in Iraq is replacing the death of 10 or even 100 Iranian soldiers. Not only US soldiers are getting killed, not only Iraq is beeing given to iraq on a peace of plate, but also Iran is beeing paid for this. The rise in the petrol price which is a result of the instability allowed Iran to finance all its projects.
now you have a point ... agreed. But I still dont get. Do you support Sunni insurgency or not??

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Are the Iraq Chia real allies to US?
I was amazed to hear a high ranking US general saying the the violence in Iraq has fallen 50% since the start of the new operation in Iraq. The truth is that the Iraqi PM saw it coming, he asked his chia friends like muqtada and other to keep a low profile till that storm passes. There goes the 50%.
or maybe American servicemen are just doing as best as they can .... we will see anyways ... it is too soon to say anything ..

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One day US will discover that the same way Alqaead was their ally in Afganestan, the chia are their allies in Iraq. One day they will find out that the same way Alqaead turned against them, their chia allies will turn against them in Iraq, and in other places..
another way to re-phrase this sentance ... would be to showcase America turning on his ally - Saddam Hussein. Comeone man, this game is played by all.

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As someone who lived throu a war, as someone who fought the same ennemy, as someone who saw soldiers dying, I have all the respect for every soldier beeing killed in Iraq. But the truth is that American policy is a historical mistake.
that is truth ... but that mistake was made and its done.

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One thing is sure. The people drawing the US policy in Iran and Iraq are still commiting more and more mistakes every day. The US, with all its strengh, can not keep on doing mistake after mistake and keep surviving. It is time to stop commiting mistakes, and have a radical change in policy.
Such as .... Please fully explain ... . what would be your solution

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