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Ray · 02-17-2007, 13:59 PM

Under no circumstances any country appeases any other country. Each one follows its own national interests.

US acted correctly as far as her national interest was concerned in Iraq and in the initial stage achieved the aim. However, since the whole issue was not thought through the problems have arisen. I supported the Iraq issue but I was not aware that the issue had not been thought through, even though I had mentioned the problems of urban insurgency that could follow.

That is the point that was in my post - thinking through the issues before acting.

Sweden, on the one hand, has Russia back on the threat list, Norway thinks otherwise. Contradictory and odd. Baltic Sea is an important choke point for the Russian fleet. Therefore, the Russian - European equation along with the Scandinavian countries have to be taken into consideration. Hence the links.

Russia is making overtures to Europe. Europe, on the other hand, is attempting to get the Baku oil without entering Russian territory and yet Russia has once again started exerting itself in the countries where the source of oil is as also on transit countries. The planned deployment of the Missiles has cause a serious kerfuffle.

Turkey which is an important ally and is to have one of the viable and possible the only feasible terminal not transiting Russian and 'allies' territory of the Baku oil. She is being alienated with the Kurdish autonomy in Iraq question and if alienated could be a problem area. Then take the Kosovo question. It too has its own issues that will impinge on the relationship. Poland has taken umbrage with the Germans. Italy is to try the US CIA agents who sent the AQ suspects to Egypt through Italy without Italy being aware. Therefore, Europe is in a flux and one just doesn't know which way the cat shall jump.

Therefore, one cannot look at issues in isolation.

I am sure such a comment is not out of context.

But if one (anyone for that matter, including me) is of the opinion that comments not in synchromesh with one's comments is not to one's liking and should not be posted, then all one could say that it is a sad viewpoint in a forum where debate is the format.

If Islam and other religions can be debated without umbrage being taken, then one can hardly take umbrage anywhere else, unless it is personal.

My comments in no way indicates that they are acceptable or sacrosanct since this is but a forum to exchange ideas and information and hopefully emerging more educated! I do not belabour under fond delusions.

02-17-2007, 13:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 27,251 Country:	Under no circumstances any country appeases any other country. Each one follows its own national interests. US acted correctly as far as her national interest was concerned in Iraq and in the initial stage achieved the aim. However, since the whole issue was not thought through the problems have arisen. I supported the Iraq issue but I was not aware that the issue had not been thought through, even though I had mentioned the problems of urban insurgency that could follow. That is the point that was in my post - thinking through the issues before acting. Sweden, on the one hand, has Russia back on the threat list, Norway thinks otherwise. Contradictory and odd. Baltic Sea is an important choke point for the Russian fleet. Therefore, the Russian - European equation along with the Scandinavian countries have to be taken into consideration. Hence the links. Russia is making overtures to Europe. Europe, on the other hand, is attempting to get the Baku oil without entering Russian territory and yet Russia has once again started exerting itself in the countries where the source of oil is as also on transit countries. The planned deployment of the Missiles has cause a serious kerfuffle. Turkey which is an important ally and is to have one of the viable and possible the only feasible terminal not transiting Russian and 'allies' territory of the Baku oil. She is being alienated with the Kurdish autonomy in Iraq question and if alienated could be a problem area. Then take the Kosovo question. It too has its own issues that will impinge on the relationship. Poland has taken umbrage with the Germans. Italy is to try the US CIA agents who sent the AQ suspects to Egypt through Italy without Italy being aware. Therefore, Europe is in a flux and one just doesn't know which way the cat shall jump. Therefore, one cannot look at issues in isolation. I am sure such a comment is not out of context. But if one (anyone for that matter, including me) is of the opinion that comments not in synchromesh with one's comments is not to one's liking and should not be posted, then all one could say that it is a sad viewpoint in a forum where debate is the format. If Islam and other religions can be debated without umbrage being taken, then one can hardly take umbrage anywhere else, unless it is personal. My comments in no way indicates that they are acceptable or sacrosanct since this is but a forum to exchange ideas and information and hopefully emerging more educated! I do not belabour under fond delusions. __________________ "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination." I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to. HAKUNA MATATA Last edited by Ray : 02-17-2007 at 14:23 PM.