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Originally Posted by Sombra
I think there are quite a lot contradictions in your post HalAde.
1. Perpetual motion is per definiton a device which keeps on working without the surplus of external energy whatever. Laws of thermodynamic say that impossible. If you have proof the laws of thermodynamics are wrong please show that.
2. Un known source of constantly renewing energy. Fine, thats like creating energy from nothing or?
Regarding the your examples of these kinds of energy:
- Earth magnetic field : Ahem , well earth core is cooling slowly , rotation of earth gets slower. Well, you can say the energy is spent slowly as it should.
- Cosmic radiation whatever kind you want to use its now that the energy will stay always on the same level. The cosmos gets cooler all the time.
-Quantum vacuum. Interessting thought. I think you refer to the "fact/thought" that the laws of quantum mechanics forbid the existence of a total vacuum . In these cases sporadically matter will appear simply said and destroy itself immeadtely. Its kind if a 0 sum game to fullfill the need of quantum mechanics. AFAIK
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On contradictions in my post, please state those contradictions.
Because of time constraints, I'll reply to Item #2, and answer the other points later. Did you think that I believed that energy could be created from nothing? At the present time, I do not believe that, but there are those scientists/engineers who believe just that, for good reason. I refer you to a peper by David G. Yurth and Donald Ayres of the Nova Institute of Technology (
Nova Institute of Technology)
http://www.pureenergysystems.com/aca...n_25Apr06c.doc
They are fit to argue their point; I am not.
Please refer to my previous post when I said quite clearly that it is widely accepted in physics that there are two versions of the concept of perpetual motion. This not something I have contrived, but it is a notion I have accepted from physicists I respect. I mentioned very clearly that there ios Perpetual Motion of the First kind, that being th concept that energy coyuld be created from nothing at all. Even within the Free Energy Community to which I belong, again with good reason, I would darte say that over 98% of t proponents do not believe that, simpl,y becuase we have never seen eveidence for it. As for Perpetual Motion of the Second kind, yes indeed, we believ that it is not only possible, but over 99% probable that a generally unknown source of constantly renewing energy can be tapped, that being energy from the Quantum VAcuum. As you mentioned, no sooner does a photon of energy come into existence than a counter or anti-photon anihilates it. Indeed, for every proton there is an electron, and for every North Pole of a magnet there is an opposite South Pole as far as we know, since some have mooted the existence of monopoles. The trick, though is to grab these virtual photons from the Vacuum into our 3D world, our material world, for our use, before they can "disappear". Also, in accordance with the First Law of Thermodynamics, these photons do not really disappear from existance, but return to the Quantum Vacuum for re-use, hence the concept of constantly renewing energy. If there is only a finite, and not an infinite amount of energy in the Vacuum, there are Billions of PetaWAtt-Years of it according to physicists Wheeler, Puthoff, Feynman, Schwinger, Sakharov and other respected scientists. Would you challenge their viewpoints?
BTW, the SECOND Law of Thermodynamics is indeed called into question. We F-E people contend that there is not only entropy, but under certain circumstances, NEGentropy as well.
My final point is that I no longer consider any law or theory in science as fact, as immutable, as I used to. I consider that such "laws" apply MOST of the time, but not necessarily all the time.
Hal Ade