@STAN ..... it matters not that there is no dejure Kurdish nation, considerng the fact that there is a defacto Kurdish territory ... once the defacto is achieved, recognition will come after ... see PRC
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Originally Posted by Kansas Bear
"Ottoman Centuries" by Kinross is excellent. He's unbiased and not a "paid" historian like Mango or McCarthy.
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I have read that book ... i am reading another one but this one goes mosty into administration ... it goes from Osman to Suleiman
though i dont remember any of the two having any opinion regarding the Palestine, espacially "Ottoman Centuries" that spans across several centuries ...
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Originally Posted by Kansas Bear
I've read "Decline and Fall of the Ottoman Empire" by Palmer,
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would it be as fullfiling as edward gibbons's history of the decline and fall of the roman empire .... 
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