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Originally Posted by Stan187
Yup, that's the standard hull-down position. If you're reading about the Yom Kippur War, Chaim Herzog's book, as well as the one by the Insight Team at London Times do the conflict some justice.
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Thanks, I'll look them up!
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Back then optics were pretty crude, from what I understand. Even the Centurions the Israelis had still used tracer machinegun ammo to determine range. As far as I'm aware, the Israelis still teach their gunners to be able to shoot without the targeting system, in case it ever goes down in battle.
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Yup, ranging machine guns were used the world over. The Indian Army for instance used them with their cents as well. I think all armies train on backup sights/aux sights for the "just in case" reason.