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Factually incorrect: the US did NOT supply Iraq with weapons, and anyway,
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Carter administartion gave the green light to saddam to invade Iran .. hoping that the turmoil or revolution and wat will somehow weaken the new anti-american government in Iran. You are correct in assuming that US did not provide weapons to Iraq: but UK, France and USSR did quite a bit.
The reason US did not supply weapons was not that of consideration for the Iranians but rather that Iraq was still a Soviet client state therefore transferring high-tech US weaponary would have been quite foolish.
But believe me that US did its bid and quite bid to support Iraq in everyway they could. Not only that most of Iraqi intelligence was performed via US satellites and I might even add that US did took a side in 1987-88, or I should say Saddam achieved what he wanted when he started attacking Iranian oil shipments, knowing that it would force Iran to strike back which inturn would bring in the superpowers in.
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they've been 'getting us back' ever since they started the whole thing by the grossest violation of the only means nations have to deal with one another, when they seized our diplomats and embassy.
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Wha ... ?? the grossest violation was when CIA toppled a democratically elected government in 1953 and install a dictator. The Iranian revolution was a 'blow back' of that operation.
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And their goddamned 'President' was leading the charge.
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incorrect ... the Prime Minister of iran in that time was Dr. Bazargan a 70 year old engineer who had served in the Free French during WWII. He resigned almost immediatly after the hostage taking.
I am not sure if the concept of revolution and the chaos that usually causes is familiar to you Americans. But believe or not things like this do happen. But if you feel like using that to strength your anti-iranian stance .. feel free to do so. Infact it was only after the hostage were taken that Khomeini realized of the importance and therefore kept the hostages and made demands.
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As for the present day, you'd have to be deluded to not understand the Iranian government's complete and total control over the flow of weapons into Iraq.
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very funny ... the sunni insurgenncy is financed primarly by Saudi Arabia and Jordan ,, Iran does finances the Shia factions. I believe most of the killings is done by the sunni insurgenncy that is against the Shia-led majority.
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They are killing US troops, it's on purpose, and we should pay them back in kind.
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since when waging proxy wars has
not been on purpose ??? .. and like i said before Iran is on the side Shia not the sunni insuregency. Ofcourse you Americans or so into your FOX news that the concept of Saudi financing of sunni insurgency is too alien for you. How could it be??? they are our allies??
you simply make a vague loose connection between Iran, miltia and Iraq, and connect them together without even counting Saudi intrests - which are quite quite important. Hell!!! all the forgien fighters in Iraq are form Saudi arabia and Jordan
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Opening a dialogue with such as them? They would likely as not seize our people all over again, because that's what animals like that DO.
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Is insulting other's nationality is allowed on this forum? .... is this a white supermacy forum? ..... will I be banned if I say that the only Animals are the animals that lauched an unprovoked-invasion of another sovergien nation in 2003.
for **** sake. What Iran is doing is no different than what America would if there were 100,000 Russian troops next to its border in Canada. What Iran is doing is no different than what China did during the Korean War. What Iran is doing is no different than what Pakistan and USA did to the Soviets during the Afghan-Soviet War.What Iran is doing is no different than what JFK did during the Cuban missile crisis.
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No, sir. We've been at war since 1979, but our side is just now coming to that realization. It's time to make them know what they've asked for: red war to the knife.
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no the war started in 1953 ... but ofcourse you - an American - see things from a bigoted and superior point of view.