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Old 12-12-2006, 18:02 PM   #52 (permalink)
zraver
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Originally Posted by Pragnosis View Post
You are correct, it is difficult to admit that I am wrong. I do apologise to all of the people that I may have offended with some of my unfounded remarks, I guess I need to learn to think before I write, sometimes. I would appreciate your opinion on the three points below.

I'll explain the reasons I believe the things that I do.

1)

9/11 seemed to have some unanswered questions, such as; why the buildings collapsed so quickly, I've seen documentaries claiming that after the aeroplanes hit the two buildings, a seperate set of explosions took place indicating that there was some sort of demolition took place. Like, this idea seemed fairly convincing because one of the buildings collapsed without impact from air-craft which seemed extremely strange to me. Can anybody explain this?

2)

Weapons of Mass Destruction was claimed to be the reason why we invaded Iraq. When they weren't found, the reason changed to 'give people of Iraq freedom and democracy'. It all just seems a bit messy, so I came to the conclusion (with the articles and documentaries that I have seen) that they were all excuses.

3)

Conspiracy theorists such as Jordon Maxwell have put forward some interesting cases stating the United States is actually an incorporated government. He claims that the United States is actually a corporation out of the United Kingdom. There are some documents that seem quite convincing that back this up. This led me to believe that the whole reason for this invasion was for money. That the war with Iraq is an investment and a very profitable one at that. That the US and UK are pretty deceiptful and want to impose a New World Order

http://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/us_corporation.htm
http://theunjustmedia.com/Banking%20...0interests.htm

I simply put all of these things together and came to the conclusion that the US Government is totally corrupt and only interested in their own interests. I have got to admit that the information that I have received from you guys has blown me away and has been quite impressive. It has just shown me how many holes that need filling in my research.

So, please let me know what you think of the three points that I've made above. Do you think Jordon Maxwell is insane, or simply a conman? Are conspiracy theorists there purely to entertain people? Because some people really buy into what they're saying.
1- A-The force of the impact stripped away the 70's era fire retardents and sheilding. B- ther eis always wind at that hieght creating a furnace effect C- Each floor weighs 3000 tons D- Steel lose sits streangth at around 1100 degrees E- if you watch the footag ethe center of each building gives way ahea dof the curtain wall (exterior). Together these add up to a catasphrophiuc failure. There is no honest simulation in the world that has those buildings staying up a slong as they. Those two ladies fought death it self to let people get out of them and they are a tribute to American engineering.

2- A-There are still some 1000 tons of declared chemical weapons by Iraq that has nver been found. B- The Aimes strain of anthrax use din the anthraxy attakc salso happens to be the same strain sold to Iraq C- Saddam engage din willful violations of the cease fir ein other areas. D- Saddam himself wanted the world to beleive he had WMD beucase it kept him in power E- Saddam's refusal to let his brain trust testify F- reports from defecotrs and Iraqi opposistion groups

All in all it is easy to see why the majority of the major intel services thought he still maintained a WMD program (US,UK, Israel, Aus and others)

3- is not even worth discussing. The US has thwarted british efforts in a number areas at a number of times. The two most fampous examples being cash and carry prior to lendlease which bankrupted Britian and doomed its colonial empire, and the US sacking British, French, and Israeli plans to take the Suez from Nasser. Chruchhill some it up best (paraphrasing) "No matter what else stay on the side of the Americans"
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