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Old 12-12-2006, 14:34 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Yirmeyahu View Post
False. It was not "internationally recognized" that Israel was justified in responding to the closing of the Straits with military violence. This is pure fiction. It was internationally recognized that the dispute should be settled diplomatically.
Apparently internationally recognized maritime treaties that exist in the real world don't exist in your make believe world.

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False. The legal status of the Straits was in question. Egypt was not a party to the treaty you speak of and regarded the straits as territorial, not international, waters.
The internationally recognized treaty gave the legal status of the Straits. Russia claiming Floridian waters as territorial is no more legitimate of claim that Egypt claiming these waters to be territorial.



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False. That is an opinion. Egypt sought a diplomatic settlement to the dispute over the use of the Straits, such as a judgment from the World Court. US Secretary of Stat Dean Rusk acknowledged that "it was a real possibility" that diplomatic efforts would lead to "getting Egypt to reopen the straits".
An opinion supported by later confirmed plans, and opinion support also by the disposition of 8 Egyptian divisions in formation waiting to attack. That fact is undisputable.




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Originally Posted by Yirmeyahu View Post
Yes, only "silly revisionists" like me believe Israel had a choice.

Like Menachem Begin:

"In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him."

And Avraham Sela, a colleague of Oren's at the Shalem Center:

The Egyptian buildup in Sinai lacked a clear offensive plan, and Nasser's defensive instructions explicitly assumed an Israeli first strike.

And Yitzhaq Rabin

"I do not think Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent to the Sinai would not have been sufficent to launch an offensive war. He knew it and we knew it."

All a bunch of "silly revisionists".
Wow you really just have a habit of repeating yourself, don't you? Have you got all the citations for those quotes? All the context for them, as we previously critcized you on? Of course not, because that doesn't support the point you're trying to make.

Let me guess, your next post will again be repeating something you already said without justifying it any more? Go ahead, prove me wrong. Add something intelligent to the discussion, if you have the capability.
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