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Old 12-10-2006, 10:34 AM   #59 (permalink)
Shek
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Yirmey,

Do you deliberately misquote folks, or do you not know the context of the quotes that you use?

I've already pointed out how you misquoted Begin by citing a quote out of context, using his quote to try and bolster your argument that Israel didn't act out of self-defense.

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Originally Posted by Yirmeyahu
Quote by Shek:
I've already demonstrated the Begin quote to be taken out of the context and edited so as to be misleading on the issue of self-defense.

Quote by Yirmeyahu:
That's an interesting story, but unfortunately it's fiction.
Since you failed to acknowledge the very next sentence from Begin's speech, I'll include it again:

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This was a war of self-defence in the noblest sense of the term.
Next, let's look at Rabin's quote that you've been using throughout the thread. I've included in bold text a portion of the quote that you failed to include.

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Originally Posted by Yirmeyahu
"I do not think Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent to the Sinai on May 14 would not have been sufficent to launch an offensive war. He knew it and we knew it." -- Yitzhaq Rabin
However, in one of your most recent posts, you've demonstrated knowledge of the context of the quote:

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Originally Posted by Yirmeyahu
C. Rabin was talking about Egyptian forces relocated on in May 1967. The map shown above shows troop movements on June 5 and 6, 1967.
So, the bottomline behind the quote is that it applies to May 14, and not the situation on June 5, and therefore, attempting to use it is misleading.

To fill in the space between May 14 and June 5, here's a brief timeline (all are cited from Oren's "Six Days of War":

Aerial photos on May 19 showed the buildup to be 80K men, 550 tanks, and 1000 guns (Oren 76).

By May 20, a full six divisions were in the Sinai (Oren 78).

On May 23, Rabin had a nervous breakdown where he was temporarily suceeded in command and placed on quarters to rest (Oren 91).

So, my question to you is two-fold. Did you deliberately misquote Rabin, or did you not know that his quote referred to the situation on May 14 and not June 5? In either case, why should we trust that your other quotes are faithful to the context in which they were made, whether it be an error of commission or omission?
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