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Old 12-01-2006, 00:19 AM   #28 (permalink)
Yirmeyahu
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The only places that have the "quotes" you gave are either blogs or marxist.com, aqsa.org, and ussliberty.org. Clearly no agenda there.
The quotes don't come from those sources. They come from Yitzhaq Rabin, Menachem Begin, Ezer Weizman, and Avraham Sela. The fact that they have been repeated on websites you regard as biased is irrelevant to the point, which is that it's long been acknowledged by Israel that there was no imminent threat of attack from Egypt.

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Your statement about the offer was also false.
On the contrary.

Stan187

I see your argument has been reduced to ad hominums. That's instructive.

troung

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Look I am generally thought around here to be the least pro-Israel person to say it very lightly; but Egypt did provoke the war.
There was no imminent threat from Egypt. Israel, by attacking Egypt, commited an act of aggression, "the supreme international crime" as defined at Nuremberg. Those are the facts.

Closing the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping had little impact on Israel. But your argument is that the Israeli surprise attack was justified because Egypt embargoed Israel.

By this logic, the Japanese attack upon Pearl Harbor was justified. In fact, the US embargo of Japan had a far more devastating economic impact, so even more so.

Stan187

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To add onto what Troung said, Israel also publically declared many times that to them, shutting off the Straights was casus belli for war, was tantamount to an act of war and be considered as such. If Nasser didn't want to believe this, that's his stupid choice.
The US also knew that embargoing Japan, alongside other steps, would be regarded by the Japanese as an act of war.

Again, by this logic, the attack on Pearl Harbor was justified. By this logic, is was Roosevelt's own "stupid choice" to provoke the Japanese attack.
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