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Originally Posted by Sombra
I see your point regarding the low number of samples in the first report. Anyway I am asking for a discussion regarding the numbers because statisitcs of this group were used for a political agenda before.
Still if you look at the report you will see that this time for a statistical analysis the sample number is even quite big.
Polls and statistical analysis are quite advanced ( polls for elections) etc have a quite well defined saftey margin.
Before debunking this attempt to establish the number of deaths I would like to see any other serious work to get the right number. As before Iraq body count does a valiant attempt even if they look only on the reportet violent deaths. Here they get all the additional deaths resulting of a higher mortality death rate due to the war whatever the causes.
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Sombra,
The Lancet report can be discredited on its own terms. However, that doesn't necessarily discredit the notion that OIF has created excess deaths.
The problem is that most people don't understand the term "excess" deaths, and so too many arguments argue about apples and oranges. My thoughts are that OIF has created excess deaths by this point, with the unleashing of sectarian violence being the cause that has made the post war period more deadly. I'll post more later - got to go to work.