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Old 08-31-2006, 10:47 AM   #21 (permalink)
HistoricalDavid
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Originally Posted by Expat Canuck
Wow that guys got banned quick.

To play devils advocate he does have a point in some way. As much as I don稚 want Iran to have nukes and we should stop them what gives us the right to?
a) cost/benefit - cold as it may sound, the cost of a Middle Eastern nuclear war or standoff will probably be worse than pre-emptory action on its facilities now.
b) they're probably more irrational than other regimes - like the late Soviet Union - and MAD doctrine might not work with them.
c) they have a wide, consistent range of abuses of freedom.

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Really, how would we feel if say China came over and said hey quit building a military capable of fighting back! Quit it or we値l smack you all one so help me.
China can't smack 'us' without far worse retaliatory consequences.

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I know I値l get flamed for it and I知 not trolling but at what point do we stop taking it upon ourselves to tell others what they can and can not do?
At whatever point when individuals enjoy their natural rights to life, liberty and property.

Why don't you complain about Iranian clerics telling people in their country how to behave, what to wear, etc etc...

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When have we crossed the line into becoming what we profess to hate so much under the banner of freedom?
Very eloquent, but you're anthropomorphising nations. Personally I like individual freedom and abhor all this nationalist talk of 'national rights and freedoms'.

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I知 in no way saying that we are an evil society but if we continue like this we may be looked back upon in history as the evil ones.
I think we should be concerned with now, rather than what the history books say.

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All I知 saying is we need to be careful as not every citizen in a country we attack is a crazy mad man and unless they hit us first as was the case with Germany and Japan, we started it.
Nope, Iran started it through its tyranny, sponsorship of terrorism, threatening politics and whatnot.
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