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troung · 08-13-2003, 22:24 PM

"Wow! He has it all worked out, doesn't he? Oh well, I guess I'll go home and I won't fight."

France trains to knock out enemy air bases to prevent them from even flying. Then you have advanced missiles like the MICA EM/IR carried by the Mirage 2000-5C/B and Rafale.

"Now THAT is the French attitude. The Israeli attitude would be fight until you get it, no stragglers, no quitters, one man complains hes going in first."

hahhahahahahahha

The French are known for fighting to the end. I can name many battles where they fought againist hopeless odds. And the Israelis bet on old women and little kids. So pulling up thier defeat in WWII is not all that great of a test, becuase look how many nations its took to beat Germany (UK, USSR, USA, Free European Forces). So please don't take all the credit for defeating the Nazis.

"Troung, your'e wrong, Israel has a blue water capable navy, but doesn't have to project globally on a regular basis. Pound for pound, its just as effective as the French Navy, at much less cost. The Exocet is offset by both the Harpoon and Gabriel so its a wash."

Top heavy corvettes do not make a blue water navy. It's no where near the French navy in power projection. Can the IDF navy blockade the Malaysia for example? Can the IDF blockaid Argentina.

France has a blue water navy with Carriers, SSBNs, SSNs, DDGs, FFGs and support ships.

"By the by, the Mirage 5 was paid for primarily by the Israelis and Dassault together. The Froggies reneged on their committment to sell us the plane,"

The Nesher was actually just the Mirage 5J which the USA brought over from France using the C-141, check ACIG on that one.

"In the meantime, explain why the French are sterotyped as cowards, and the Jews are stereotyped as filthy rich lawyers and doctors?"

And I guess every black guy can play basketball and every Asian guy knows kung fu?

"As far as the Apache goes when did 140km become "Very Long Range"?
and while 250km is much better The Scalp EG wouldn't qualify as "very long ranged" to my mind either."

More then long enough. And they would be carried on the Rafale, Mirage 2000-5 and Mirage 2000D/N. Compared with the weapons the B-52H uses those are no long ranged but they are longer ranged then the IDF/AFs Popeye.

08-13-2003, 22:24 PM	#44 (permalink)
troung A Self Important *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 4,304 Country:	"Wow! He has it all worked out, doesn't he? Oh well, I guess I'll go home and I won't fight." France trains to knock out enemy air bases to prevent them from even flying. Then you have advanced missiles like the MICA EM/IR carried by the Mirage 2000-5C/B and Rafale. "Now THAT is the French attitude. The Israeli attitude would be fight until you get it, no stragglers, no quitters, one man complains hes going in first." hahhahahahahahha The French are known for fighting to the end. I can name many battles where they fought againist hopeless odds. And the Israelis bet on old women and little kids. So pulling up thier defeat in WWII is not all that great of a test, becuase look how many nations its took to beat Germany (UK, USSR, USA, Free European Forces). So please don't take all the credit for defeating the Nazis. "Troung, your'e wrong, Israel has a blue water capable navy, but doesn't have to project globally on a regular basis. Pound for pound, its just as effective as the French Navy, at much less cost. The Exocet is offset by both the Harpoon and Gabriel so its a wash." Top heavy corvettes do not make a blue water navy. It's no where near the French navy in power projection. Can the IDF navy blockade the Malaysia for example? Can the IDF blockaid Argentina. France has a blue water navy with Carriers, SSBNs, SSNs, DDGs, FFGs and support ships. "By the by, the Mirage 5 was paid for primarily by the Israelis and Dassault together. The Froggies reneged on their committment to sell us the plane," The Nesher was actually just the Mirage 5J which the USA brought over from France using the C-141, check ACIG on that one. "In the meantime, explain why the French are sterotyped as cowards, and the Jews are stereotyped as filthy rich lawyers and doctors?" And I guess every black guy can play basketball and every Asian guy knows kung fu? "As far as the Apache goes when did 140km become "Very Long Range"? and while 250km is much better The Scalp EG wouldn't qualify as "very long ranged" to my mind either." More then long enough. And they would be carried on the Rafale, Mirage 2000-5 and Mirage 2000D/N. Compared with the weapons the B-52H uses those are no long ranged but they are longer ranged then the IDF/AFs Popeye.