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Originally Posted by Praxus
If the war was never started the innocent deaths would have NEVER happened. The Moral Responsibility of those deaths lay on the INITIATOR OF FORCE.
I don't so what's so complicated about it.
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I don't see how that helps selecting a tactic that is going to end the war on terror. The war is being fought. The fighting has started. Each battle will, as need demands it from the protagonists, be taken in isolation. We have seen tit-for-tat in many places in the world. I don't expect the WoT to be any different.
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If we don't start actually fighting the war on terror like we mean it, this war will go on long after I'm dead and thousands more Americans will die then nessecary because our needless and stubern belief in Altruism. Not a single American should die to save a so called innocent civilian.
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So called? 5 year old kids losing limbs (last night's news) are going to think "Well we asked for that, because the initiator of force was clearly the sponsoring of terrorist acts decades before i was born. Even neglecting the fact that we ourselves were sponsored (again before i was born) by the ally we are fighting, I clearly at, 5, can rationalise this so that when i get older i will not decide to kill the American infidel that caused my Daddy to die, my Mummy to cry and my sister to lose an arm. I won't fume for the next 10 years wondering how i can get revenge on these people who are clearly not pig dogs but are in fact peaceful people who came to liberate us and give us a new life. Although i have been the only person able to earn any money and support my family for the last decade. And that is a family with disabled people in a poor country without the facilities to really help me or them."
I grant you that is very histrionic, but it is happneing now, and can only get worse when you use blunter tactics. This in turn not only converts those that suffer under it, but convinces those that see and hear the stories, either by the "liberal news media" or by word of mouth, that this is the world that we have given to Iraq.
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Only a few cruise missiles missed so badly that they went into Iran. Which is completely concievable considering the target was likely near Um Quasar which is just a few miles from the Iranian border.
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Still a miss. To gurantee against that one you'd have to pull all the troops into the sea.
We all have seen several direct hits on the correct target but that it was later found out the target was wrong due to bad intelligence.
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I've never heard of a bomber bombing the wrong country at least in the last 10 years.
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I seem to remember a bomber missing Afghanistan and hitting Pakistan a year or so ago, but i could be wrong.
But either way, the FF argument is a side issue the real problem is that you have to win the hearts and minds. Or you will make more enemies and you then have to kill them until you reach the point were you are, in fact, simply a thrashing rabid animal lashing out at anything that looks at you.