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Old 04-13-2004, 11:08 AM   #28 (permalink)
Praxus
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To Trooth:

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But isn't that what you are proposing? You have on several occaisions insisted that the west should impose its will on the region, its system of government and that those that disagree should be killed.
I never said they should be killed, you choose to make this up!

They have everyright to protest the new Government but if they attack our troops or the Government, we have a right to kill them. That is all I was saying.

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But there is no point if that government has to use force to stay in power. Which is what is happening in Iraq / Afghanistan. Both countries are now desecnding into anarchy because there is a power vacuum. The western appointed leaderships have no legitimacy because the people cannot relate to them. This isn't Star Trek. Captain Kirk can't simply read out the US declaration of independance and have "aliens"
They would have to use retalitory force to stay in power. When they are attacked by islamists the Government has the right to fight back against them and destroy them.

To: Ray

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I too HATE the fundoos (we call the fundamentalists so). But I look at the poor chaps whoare caught in between the Devil and the Deep Sea. I would like to help them so that they become the majority.
Ray I agree, if there are thoose moderates out there that want to create a free Government that seperates church and state we should support them whole heartidly. While at the same time destroy thoose elements who wish to do us harm.

But again my point is that we are appointing people to these Governments in Iraq and Afghanistan that are not moderate, that do not believe in Liberty, and want nothing less then a theocracy. This can not be allowed from the moral or even pragmatic viewpoint.

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