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Old 03-28-2004, 15:16 PM   #62 (permalink)
Praxus
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Praxus,

I am not in favour of the Hamas because they are being irrational. However, I am also alarmed at your irrationality to prove a point. Where in the Dickens has Hamas attacked the US?

Note, if there is irrationality in an argument, it defeats the case.

My country has been ravaged by Islamist idiots, but that doesn't mean I lose rationale thinking and act like an idiot myself!

We ahve suffered more at the hands of these fundamentalists than you can ever imagine. We have WTCs daily, but we have not lost our moorings and our brains!

Let's get the debate on to rationale thinking and not on emotions. If I got to your emotional quotient, then I should be there killing all Muslims anywhere I see. But, I think that would be the stupidest thing to do.
If Hamas has attacked us or not is irrelivent (they have). Their ideaolgy is hostile to individual rights and reason. They can not be allowed to exsist.

I am not basing my thinking on emotion. You say it is wrong to target civilians but you don't give me anymore explanation besides "it's just wrong because their civilians and that's what seperates us from them"(paraphrasing).

The civilians are the moral responsibility of the Government, in this case the PLO. Everytime a so called innocent palestinine dies from Israeli attacks it is because the PLO refuses to protect it's peoples rights and they refuse to crack down on the Islamists.

All those truely innocent and thoose viamently against the dictatorships in the middle east, their first act should be to overthrow the dictator in power and join the side of Israel. By their action or rather their inaction they are either passively supporting the dictatorships, monarchys, and theocracys or they are directly supporting them. Neither group of people, we should place over the life of Israeli citizens(Jewish and Arab a like).

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It also seperates farmers from farms. So, as i said, it doesn't respect property rights.
In a society were there is no private property you can not claim that putting up a fence is violating their property. Only individuals and groups of people can own/claim property(like the seterlers in the west bank). If the property is owned by the state it is owned by no one, therefor they have the moral right to claim that land.



ALL DEATHS IN A WAR ARE THE MORAL RESPONSIBILITY OF THE INITIATOR OF FORCE.

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