Clinton vs. Giuliani in 2008 - Page 3

HistoricalDavid · 11-28-2007, 15:36 PM

Precisely, Dreadnought. It is irrelevant that Hillary is a woman, but it is relevant that as you say she hasn't the stones.

However, even if we were to go with the woman thing, what makes America unsuitable for a woman? In 1979, Britain was mired in inflation and unemployment, the 'sick man of Europe'. Now, I suppose we need strong leadership for a secure America facing terrorist challenges etc etc. Trouble is, there will never be an 'ideal' time for a woman. In the '10s you needed a strong ballsy guy to guide America through WWI. In the '20s, you needed a strong ballsy guy to guide America through business-led prosperity, 'cause the women would just mollycoddle everyone with welfare. In the '30s, you needed a strong ballsy guy to fix the Depression. '40s, WWII and Cold War. '50s, segregation problems and nuclear USSR. '60s, Cuban Missile Crisis and Vietnam. '70s, oil crisis and post-Vietnam malaise. '80s, beat the Soviet Union. '90s, handle America's hyperpowerdom responsibly. 00s, WoT. You get the point - there is always an excuse against a woman.

Dwarven Pirate · 11-28-2007, 16:20 PM

What are those cross-dressing pictures of Giuliani, anyhow?

EDIT: The banner under my post says "Dress Uniforms". Heheh, classic.

Dreadnought · 11-28-2007, 17:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HistoricalDavid

Precisely, Dreadnought. It is irrelevant that Hillary is a woman, but it is relevant that as you say she hasn't the stones.

However, even if we were to go with the woman thing, what makes America unsuitable for a woman? In 1979, Britain was mired in inflation and unemployment, the 'sick man of Europe'. Now, I suppose we need strong leadership for a secure America facing terrorist challenges etc etc. Trouble is, there will never be an 'ideal' time for a woman. In the '10s you needed a strong ballsy guy to guide America through WWI. In the '20s, you needed a strong ballsy guy to guide America through business-led prosperity, 'cause the women would just mollycoddle everyone with welfare. In the '30s, you needed a strong ballsy guy to fix the Depression. '40s, WWII and Cold War. '50s, segregation problems and nuclear USSR. '60s, Cuban Missile Crisis and Vietnam. '70s, oil crisis and post-Vietnam malaise. '80s, beat the Soviet Union. '90s, handle America's hyperpowerdom responsibly. 00s, WoT. You get the point - there is always an excuse against a woman.

Hmmm perhaps we could in effect clone some of Maggies DNA now that would produce a woman fit for the US presidency in this day and age. Cheers!

HistoricalDavid · 11-28-2007, 18:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreadnought

Hmmm perhaps we could in effect clone some of Maggies DNA now that would produce a woman fit for the US presidency in this day and age. Cheers!

For limited time only before she destroys her own party through poll tax unpopularity, and conditional upon having a war to win early on to cement her status.

**Julie** · 11-28-2007, 20:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dalem

For less than half the country interested in politics right now. Meaningless. This country has long been ready for a black or female president. There are just never any viable candidates.

-dale

All the more reason for you to go into politics, Dale.

**astralis** · 11-28-2007, 20:33 PM

dale's a black woman?

**Julie** · 11-28-2007, 22:10 PM

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Originally Posted by astralis

dale's a black woman?

dunno, never met him/her. Whomever Dale is would be a "viable candidate."

Smartass

**astralis** · 11-28-2007, 23:07 PM

julie,

you're only saying that coz you want essence o' dalem, eh?

:runs:

**Julie** · 11-28-2007, 23:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astralis

julie,

you're only saying that coz you want essence o' dalem, eh?

:runs:

Yes, ..... that obvious, huh?

Smartass

dalem · 11-29-2007, 00:08 AM

Hah! I appreciate the sentiment but I think you'd find me extremely unelectable. Besides, I'm hardly qualified.

As ruler of Daletopia, however, that's a different story.

-dale

Skull6 · 11-29-2007, 13:52 PM

They're now holding fair elections in Daletopia? I thought it would always be a dictatorship.

I know that's the plan for Skullopolis! (My wife still thinks she's the PM!

)

Debbie · 11-29-2007, 14:38 PM

Daletopia ----- where crappy food prevails and the ego crushes anyone who attempts to go there.

HistoricalDavid · 11-29-2007, 14:38 PM

But presidential power overrules, eh.

Adalwolf · 11-29-2007, 14:41 PM

I think I'd vote for Rudy over Hilary. Well, actually, I know I would.

HistoricalDavid · 11-29-2007, 14:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Debbie

Daletopia ----- where crappy food prevails and the ego crushes anyone who attempts to go there.

Girlfight!!!

Damn, I've had my avatar for all of five minutes and I already need to point it out to someone!

11-28-2007, 15:36 PM	#31 (permalink)
HistoricalDavid Distant Deeps or Skies *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 07-19-05 Location: North London, UK Posts: 2,129 Country:	Precisely, Dreadnought. It is irrelevant that Hillary is a woman, but it is relevant that as you say she hasn't the stones. However, even if we were to go with the woman thing, what makes America unsuitable for a woman? In 1979, Britain was mired in inflation and unemployment, the 'sick man of Europe'. Now, I suppose we need strong leadership for a secure America facing terrorist challenges etc etc. Trouble is, there will never be an 'ideal' time for a woman. In the '10s you needed a strong ballsy guy to guide America through WWI. In the '20s, you needed a strong ballsy guy to guide America through business-led prosperity, 'cause the women would just mollycoddle everyone with welfare. In the '30s, you needed a strong ballsy guy to fix the Depression. '40s, WWII and Cold War. '50s, segregation problems and nuclear USSR. '60s, Cuban Missile Crisis and Vietnam. '70s, oil crisis and post-Vietnam malaise. '80s, beat the Soviet Union. '90s, handle America's hyperpowerdom responsibly. 00s, WoT. You get the point - there is always an excuse against a woman. __________________ HD Ready?

11-28-2007, 20:33 PM	#36 (permalink)
astralis *Foreign Service* Moderator Lei Feng Protege Join Date: 08-23-05 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,530 Country:	dale's a black woman? __________________ Never let the future disturb you. You will meet it, if you have to, with the same weapons of reason which today arm you against the present. -Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

11-29-2007, 13:52 PM	#41 (permalink)
Skull6 *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-28-07 Location: Colorado Posts: 304 Country:	They're now holding fair elections in Daletopia? I thought it would always be a dictatorship. I know that's the plan for Skullopolis! (My wife still thinks she's the PM! ) __________________ If you know the enemy and yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles. - Sun Tzu

11-29-2007, 14:38 PM	#42 (permalink)
Debbie WAB Cautioner of Poo *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 11-20-06 Location: BOONEYVILLE Wisconsin Posts: 4,151 Country:	Daletopia ----- where crappy food prevails and the ego crushes anyone who attempts to go there. __________________ Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow up to Be Cowboys *Waylon Jennings*

11-29-2007, 14:41 PM	#44 (permalink)
Adalwolf Regular Join Date: 09-22-07 Location: USA Posts: 32 Country:	I think I'd vote for Rudy over Hilary. Well, actually, I know I would. __________________ The idea of wilderness needs no defense; only more defenders. -Edward Abbey

11-28-2007, 16:20 PM	#32 (permalink)
Dwarven Pirate Contributor Join Date: 08-20-07 Posts: 325	What are those cross-dressing pictures of Giuliani, anyhow? EDIT: The banner under my post says "Dress Uniforms". Heheh, classic.

11-28-2007, 23:07 PM	#38 (permalink)
astralis *Foreign Service* Moderator Lei Feng Protege Join Date: 08-23-05 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,530 Country:	julie, you're only saying that coz you want essence o' dalem, eh? :runs:

11-29-2007, 00:08 AM	#40 (permalink)
dalem Lord High Hullabalooster *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 11-23-04 Location: Columbia Heights, MN Posts: 8,772 Country:	Hah! I appreciate the sentiment but I think you'd find me extremely unelectable. Besides, I'm hardly qualified. As ruler of Daletopia, however, that's a different story. -dale

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HistoricalDavid Distant Deeps or Skies *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 07-19-05 Location: North London, UK Posts: 2,129 Country:	But presidential power overrules, eh.

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