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Old 04-27-2008, 10:49 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Ariana Huffinton is huffing herself at Clinton, Hyper-Ventilating How good Obama is, and Clinton is evil incarnate; Bill Maher Show.
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Old 04-27-2008, 13:22 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I'm cool with that.

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Old 04-27-2008, 13:53 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Hope you guys have watched, the Correspondence Dinner, Can I say Both Bush and ferguson was excellent.
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Old 04-27-2008, 16:11 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I heard on the radio that Obama will not debate any more before the next primaries.* Hillary even offered a ninety minute, no moderator debate with just her and Obama going over the issues and he still would not do it.* I think it just goes to show that Obama can't take the heat, nor can he do very well without a teleprompter in front of him! The Dem convention should be very interesting.
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Old 04-27-2008, 16:54 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I heard on the radio that Obama will not debate any more before the next primaries.* Hillary even offered a ninety minute, no moderator debate with just her and Obama going over the issues and he still would not do it.* I think it just goes to show that Obama can't take the heat, nor can he do very well without a teleprompter in front of him! The Dem convention should be very interesting.
So Hillary can capitalize on truths he says that most Americans don't want to hear?
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Old 04-28-2008, 04:31 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I heard on the radio that Obama will not debate any more before the next primaries.* Hillary even offered a ninety minute, no moderator debate with just her and Obama going over the issues and he still would not do it.* I think it just goes to show that Obama can't take the heat, nor can he do very well without a teleprompter in front of him! The Dem convention should be very interesting.
Isn't the accepted wisdom that only the trailing candidate suggests these "extra" debates, and that they are of limited benefit to the frontrunner?

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Old 04-28-2008, 22:52 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Isn't the accepted wisdom that only the trailing candidate suggests these "extra" debates, and that they are of limited benefit to the frontrunner?

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Yep, and it is true.

At this point they have debated quite a bit, and Hillary clearly wishes to use these debates to capitalize on character issues rather than policy ones.

I for one can't blame Obama for refusing.
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Old 04-28-2008, 23:00 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Oh man, I listened to Chris Wallace's interview of Obama. I don't think Chris Wallace was too rough on him, but Obama still yammered and studdered to answer just about every single question Wallace threw out there.

The more I hear Obama, the more I think he's a newscaster rather than a politician. His ability to spin is below Hillary. His oratory skill is way below that of Bill Clinton. He's good at reading from a script. That's about it. We already have Bush for that. At least Bush has that dumb country bumpkin feel to him. Obama feels like he's a used car salesman ready to screw you over for a good percentage.
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Old 04-29-2008, 05:46 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Obama feels like he's a used car salesman ready to screw you over for a good percentage.
That's the feel I get from Huckabee too.

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The more I hear Obama, the more I think he's a newscaster rather than a politician. His ability to spin is below Hillary. His oratory skill is way below that of Bill Clinton. He's good at reading from a script. That's about it. We already have Bush for that. At least Bush has that dumb country bumpkin feel to him. Obama feels like he's a used car salesman ready to screw you over for a good percentage.
Obama and Hillary have both run very traditional campaigns that limit access to the candidate as much as possible.

McCain is running a very unconventional compaign and will continue to do so, with the goal of maximizing access. One of the things I like about him is that he actually is doing things differently instead of the same old thing under a message of "change" and "hope."
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Old 04-29-2008, 16:38 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Obama feels like he's a used car salesman ready to screw you over for a good percentage.
Here I was ready to buy a Wagonqueen Family Truckster from him. He almost had me tricked. :D He said it would give me hope and would be a good change.
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Old 04-29-2008, 18:20 PM   #27 (permalink)
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The more I think about it, the more I think Obama is a Karl Rove plant.

Karl Rove is throttling back Obama by unleashing Wright on a whirlwind foot-in-mouth tour.
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Old 04-29-2008, 18:24 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Obama’s Remarks on Wright
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The following is a transcript of a press conference held by Senator Barack Obama in response to recent statements by his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., as provided by Mr. Obama’s presidential campaign and Federal News Service.

SENATOR BARACK OBAMA: Before I start taking questions I want to open it up with a couple of comments about what we saw and heard yesterday. I have spent my entire adult life trying to bridge the gap between different kinds of people. That's in my DNA, trying to promote mutual understanding to insist that we all share common hopes and common dreams as Americans and as human beings. That's who I am. That's what I believe. That's what this campaign has been about.

Yesterday, we saw a very different vision of America. I am outraged by the comments that were made and saddened over the spectacle that we saw yesterday.

You know, I have been a member of Trinity United Church of Christ since 1992. I have known Reverend Wright for almost 20 years. The person I saw yesterday was not the person that I met 20 years ago. His comments were not only divisive and destructive, but I believe that they end up giving comfort to those who prey on hate and I believe that they do not portray accurately the perspective of the black church.

They certainly don't portray accurately my values and beliefs. And if Reverend Wright thinks that that's political posturing, as he put it, then he doesn't know me very well. And based on his remarks yesterday, well, I may not know him as well as I thought, either.


Now, I've already denounced the comments that had appeared in these previous sermons. As I said, I had not heard them before. And I gave him the benefit of the doubt in my speech in Philadelphia, explaining that he has done enormous good in the church. He's built a wonderful congregation. The people of Trinity are wonderful people. And what attracted me has always been their ministry's reach beyond the church walls.

But when he states and then amplifies such ridiculous propositions as the U.S. government somehow being involved in AIDS, when he suggests that Minister Farrakhan somehow represents one of the greatest voices of the 20th and 21st century, when he equates the United States wartime efforts with terrorism, then there are no excuses. They offend me. They rightly offend all Americans. And they should be denounced. And that's what I'm doing very clearly and unequivocally here today.

Let me just close by saying this: I -- we started this campaign with the idea that the problems that we face as a country are too great to continue to be divided, that, in fact, all across America people are hungry to get out of the old divisive politics of the past.

I have spoken and written about the need for us to all recognize each other as Americans, regardless of race or religion or region of the country; that the only way we can deal with critical issues, like energy and health care and education and the war on terrorism, is if we are joined together. And the reason our campaign has been so successful is because we had moved beyond these old arguments.

What we saw yesterday out of Reverend Wright was a resurfacing and, I believe, an exploitation of those old divisions. Whatever his intentions, that was the result. It is antithetical to our campaign. It is antithetical to what I am about. It is not what I think American stands for.

And I want to be very clear that moving forward, Reverend Wright does not speak for me. He does not speak for our campaign. I cannot prevent him from continuing to make these outrageous remarks.

But what I do want him to be very clear about, as well as all of you and the American people, is that when I say I find these comments appalling, I mean it. It contradicts everything that I'm about and who I am.

And anybody who has worked with me, who knows my life, who has read my books, who has seen what this campaign's about, I think, will understand that it is completely opposed to what I stand for and where I want to take this country.

Last point: I'm particularly distressed that this has caused such a distraction from what this campaign should be about, which is the American people. Their situation is getting worse. And this campaign has never been about me. It's never been about Senator Clinton or John McCain. It's not about Reverend Wright.

People want some help in stabilizing their lives and securing a better future for themselves and their children. And that's what we should be talking about. And the fact that Reverend Wright would think that somehow it was appropriate to command the stage, for three or four consecutive days, in the midst of this major debate, is something that not only makes me angry but also saddens me.
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Old 04-29-2008, 22:28 PM   #29 (permalink)
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So does that means he's disowned the black community? Because that's what he said it would be like to disown Wright, before. Before Wright "suddenly" revealed himself to be an insane racist crazy Farrakhanian.

Man, 20 years and BAM, your spiritual advisor and lifelong mentor is a racial separatist. Tough to see that coming, I guess.

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So does that means he's disowned the black community? Because that's what he said it would be like to disown Wright, before. Before Wright "suddenly" revealed himself to be an insane racist crazy Farrakhanian.

Man, 20 years and BAM, your spiritual advisor and lifelong mentor is a racial separatist. Tough to see that coming, I guess.

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Me thinks Obama doth protest too much.

Rev Wright knows a good stage when he sees one and he rehearsed his lines well. If Obama gets knocked out of the race or loses in November, Rev Wright will be roundly criticized by the black community for surfacing at this critical point in time. It's almost as if he is trying to sink Obama. If not, one can only attribute his spate of appearances the last few days to a massive ego.
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