Dreadnought

Bush did the right thing not the popular thing the right thing by going headlong into the WOT. Now the rest of the world needs to decide where they stand on the issues. Our allies have been good to us but the road is long and we cant go it alone. This effects all nations not just ours.

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Ironduke

I was watching Red Eye w/Greg Gutfeld last night... they had a poll in which 98% of history professors rated the Bush presidency unfavorably.

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dalem

1) I love Gutfeld's stuff when he posts on the HuffPo. Funny guy.

2) That's like 98% of pot smokers deciding they like to smoke pot.

-dale

Shek

The other 2%?

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Ironduke

He's done with the Huffington Post... now he's on at 2am on Fox News. I think his show is one of the most hilarious I've ever seen.

Shipwreck

Yup. Torture for instance.

Which is not surprising. While one was a POW in Hanoi, the other one was using his family connections to gain admission to the ANG and avoid serving in Vietnam.

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gunnut

They are forced to smoke pot due to "medical conditions."

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dalem

They forgot.

-dale

Ryan Bailey

Friends, this may seem a stretch but I will venture a prediction:

In short the American people for the past century and a half have elected Republicans to clean up and close out unpopular wars which progress into symbols of Washingtonian Wasteage & Federal Inaction, Civil War/ Reconstruction, The Great War, Korea, Viet Nam inclusive.

McCain could benefit from focusing on the lack of leadership that the 2007-present Democrat Congress (which controls the Army & Navy 100% constitutionally) has displayed. At present our country has essentially no course of action for the next phase of the GWOT, perhaps Sen. McCain could present one around which the people may rally.

This would be in keeping with tradition, especially as the GWOT degrades in a Bushcentric assault with momentum into a Pelosicentric defence with attrition.

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gunnut

That maybe true. However those wars were started by democrats. This current war was started by a republican.

All wars the US was involved in over the last century were started by either the democrats or a Bush.

Zemco

It's the money.

The standard was to wait until a president died before reporting on their historical impact, and even those who died in office or early than usual it was common to wait at least 12 years to assess the historical impact. That all changed around the time of Kennedy/Johnson/Nixon, and now it's a rush to get books out on the market to make money.

ba1025

AMERICANS didn't start world war 2 or world war 1. The got involved well after the fact. Which republican was elected to end ww1 or ww2? perhaps the reasons the other wars had such sloppy endings is we had republican leadrship? Of course not. Woudl we of ever let China backed NK invade and conquer SK? Of course not. Should we have committed ourselves to Vietnam, Gulf 1 and gulf 2?

Should we of tried to fullfill our SEATO obligations? Should we of done nothing when a country we had agreed to come to the aid of was invaded and conquered? partisans love to blame Johnson and Kennedy for Vietnam but the truth is our Vietnam policy was a failure the moment we allowed them to enter SEATO under Eisenhower to the day we left.

Americans enter wars...the one in Iraq is no different most Americans in both parties initially supported it. Were we lied to...i think Bush was as honest with the Congress in 02 as Johnson was with the congress in 65

if the country wants to stay in Iraq for 100 or how many years it will stay. no one can make us leave but us. If the citizens of the country want to leave then we will leave. The government may resist the move but eventually if that is the will of the people that's want will happen. That's the great thing about America.

I think McCain may be in trouble because of the State parties. Some will run thinly veiled racial attacks on Obama because they will play to a portion of the base. The problem is in swing states they will work against McCain. He says it isn't me as long as he likes but he will be connected to them. Stuff like Wright said is evil but it isn't that much worse than what Falwell or Robertson have said and they got invited to the Whitehouse till the end. Trying to link Obama to stuff he didn't say is going to blow up outside of the south. The party ofwhite protestant bankers and Texas oil men isn't going to have a bright future in a brown country. Even Karl Rove saw that and tried to get the party to redirect in 06. regardless of what anyone thinks of him the man knows politics

Stan187

Speaking of sloppy endings...

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ba1025

It's called revisionist History. how many bills did Bush veto before 2006? I beleive if a republican President had wanted to tamp down the earmarks of a republican congress he could of. I dont think he had the will. 9/11 had nothing to do with him gutting revenue and spending like a stuck pig. He didnt know how to say no to a spending bill till 2007. Remember the return to big farm subsidies? Remeber the massive payout to tobacco farmers who onavg had a net wealth of 600k when they got their govt welfare checks?

ba1025

Projecting reducing the deficit whilst handing out massive taax cuts and increasing non discretionary spending is BS. Here's a mention. All his defict projections for the next ten years that show it coming down DONT include extending ANY of his taxcuts or fixxing the AMT. Did that original projection have his original taxcuts being extended...which they were...NO. You know why they were only remp taxcuts and need to keep being extended? Because if they put them on the books going out into the future they become unjustifiable in the face of the massive deficts they will continue to bring.