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Old 04-04-2008, 15:32 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I highly doubt that the PM of Ireland was walking down the street without any security. Even the town supervisor of my township (similar to a mayor in a city or village) has a police escort (granted that my township's population is about 325,000 - more then some major cities in Europe). Im willing to bet that there were a few plainclothes Garda officers hidden about
You'd be surprised - Whether or not he had plainclothes security or not I couldn't say (the Luas was about half full, so it's fully plausible), but there was absolutely no problem going over and talking to him, a rarity in itself I'd imagine.

He's actually a really nice guy, resigned a few days ago over a banking scandal, I'm sad to see him go .

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You have to remember that the US is much bigger country with many more people ... and people here for the most part dont really care for politics. There are 3 times as many people in New York State alone then in all of Ireland.
Of course I realise that, and I'm not trying to compare or say one side is better, which seems to be what yee Yanks think I'm insinuating - Merely remarking on my own experiences in this country, and how they differ !
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Old 04-04-2008, 16:31 PM   #17 (permalink)
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It didn't take a lot of money back in the day when TV didn't exist, or before that when radio didn't exist, yet they still managed to get their message out, going town to town by train or horse and buggy and speaking to people, instead of throwing a 30-second sound bite at them.
But those days the US wasn't the lone superpower on the planet. The population didn't have so many distractions. Lives were slower and simpler. A candidate can ride the train across the country, hold rallies and give speeches from there.
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Old 04-04-2008, 16:33 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Of course I realise that, and I'm not trying to compare or say one side is better, which seems to be what yee Yanks think I'm insinuating - Merely remarking on my own experiences in this country, and how they differ !
Ireland sounds like a nice place to visit. Hopefully I will have the time and money to do so in the future. By the way, Ireland was rated the most friendly tourist destination for US.
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Old 04-04-2008, 17:59 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Of course I realize that, and I'm not trying to compare or say one side is better, which seems to be what yee Yanks think I'm insinuating - Merely remarking on my own experiences in this country, and how they differ !
Hi Crooks,

Thanks for clearing that up.

As a Briton, your posts against, oops about the U.S. borderline sniping at times which is fun.
Glad to read of your British experiences in your country.
From reading how your British elections go, I'd choose your British system over ours.

Looking forward to getting over to Ireland on vacation. We were coming over in November but had to change plans. Maybe next year.

And by the way my friend, millions of us over here are not Yanks!

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Old 04-04-2008, 19:11 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Ireland sounds like a nice place to visit. Hopefully I will have the time and money to do so in the future. By the way, Ireland was rated the most friendly tourist destination for US.
That's very nice to hear! - I think it's cuz the Irish and Americans generally understand each other, I've never met an American who hasn't been highly friendly.

I've been to the states twice, enjoyed it immensly both times.

If you ever do come across, you'd be more than welcome here in Blarney !
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Old 04-04-2008, 19:20 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Hi Crooks,

Thanks for clearing that up.

As a Briton, your posts against, oops about the U.S. borderline sniping at times which is fun.
Glad to read of your British experiences in your country.
From reading how your British elections go, I'd choose your British system over ours.

Looking forward to getting over to Ireland on vacation. We were coming over in November but had to change plans. Maybe next year.

And by the way my friend, millions of us over here are not Yanks!

Cheers,

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That was class rebuttal, I actually really enjoyed it - I'm sorry, I didn't realise the term 'Yank' was irratating to Americans from outside the NE, it's just a common term over here for Americans, there was no offence meant!

I also don't snipe against the US, I really like the US - I feel your country has flaws, like any other, and will point them out to make a point, but this is a board for discussion of political issues, I have nothing against the US personally, and in fact have a great deal of affection for it personally.

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That was class rebuttal, I actually really enjoyed it - I'm sorry, I didn't realize the term 'Yank' was irritating to Americans from outside the NE, it's just a common term over here for Americans, there was no offense meant!

I also don't snipe against the US, I really like the US - I feel your country has flaws, like any other, and will point them out to make a point, but this is a board for discussion of political issues, I have nothing against the US personally, and in fact have a great deal of affection for it personally.

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All in jest my friend. No offense taken. I'm glad you read it in the friendly way it was sent. Cheers.

We in the South have a different take on the term "Yankee." Four years of war. Burning our towns, 24 years of occupation and all that. But that's way in the past and we just joke about it now.

I hope you saw in your two visits over here how highly we regard our Irish cousins.

But in all seriousness, it has been interesting to compare our different ways of selecting one good-for-nothing liar for government office over another.
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Really?!

That's amazing, is it through military, do you work for a party, or is it just chance?
Probably more a function of where I am domiciled, but chance certainly plays its part. As I said, if I were involved in party politics, I would expect a higher frequency.
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But how many times have you spoken directly to the US president?
Ask me again in November.
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That was class rebuttal, I actually really enjoyed it - I'm sorry, I didn't realise the term 'Yank' was irratating to Americans from outside the NE, it's just a common term over here for Americans, there was no offence meant!
Yeah, it wouldn't be the wisest thing to call anyone from the south a yank. The rebs are still pretty sore about losing the civil war.
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It's because we elect the leader of our government or rather electors where as western Europe elects a Parliament that makes that choice for the most part. If you looked at our Senate campaigns they'd probably be a bit more subdued. Plus in the USA you have a tremendous concentration of wealth so those individuals have lots of $ to throw around.
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