furkensturker

As an Aussie, I find the US electrol system to be a long drawn out affair. But this year I have shown some interest in it.

I thought for all money Clinton was going to be out, but she has shown to be the comeback kid.

They may have to screw the toilet seats down at the Whitehouse after all.

Would not be the first time a man was the first lady (thatcher)

Freddie

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Adux

If you look at History,

India's Indira Gandhi, UK's Tatcher, Israel's Golda Meir and Sri Lanka's Sirimavo Bandaranaike, These are leaders who are supposed to be one of the strongest their respective countries have produced. I dont think a woman would be more soft security, I actually believe a woman will be more stronger. Nothing like a Woman's wrath.

Maybe Hillary Clinton would have responded more strongly and unforgivingly if she was President during 9/11

citanon

Sorry to burst your bubble fellas, but Hillary Clinton would not be able to beat John McCain. She is universally reviled on the right and her last great political enterprise, National Healthcare, wasn't exactly a rousing success. It was in fact a miserable failure that will be brought up in any national campaign to destroy her credibility and "experience".

Adux

citanon,

Well the only hope for the Indians is John McCain. How much of anti-incumbancy factor will play against the Republicans?

dalem

Yeah, we're pretty dumb. No doubt about it.

Garsh but we're dumb.

If only we were as smart as the Brits. They are so smart.

One time I met a guy from East Northshropdunthorpe, and he was real smart.

He had a cookie, but he called it a biscuit.

That was smart.

Us dumb Americans. We invented Girls Gone Wild, but the Brits stab each other over a game where gay Belgians prance around in shorts and cry like girls.

That's smart.

Not like us.

Garsh you're smart. Please come save us from ourselves.

-dale

Kansas Bear

Compared to "Foremost" that didn't know who was next in line for the throne?? This from a 'lowly' American!

geurtjalink

obama shows more HUMAN face

citanon

Adux,

I think you have it slightly off. The only hope for the democrats is the anti-incumbancy sentiment. Look at their entire platform: CHANGE. Change what? Change how? Does it make sense? Never mind, as long as it's not Bush.

In fact, George Bush seems to be the greatest campaigner for the Democrats. With out him, all they have is the tired old protectionist, unionist, defeatist and isolationist agenda that Americans have come together to reject again and again. They have Global Warming as an issue now, but who in the center would decide their vote on that? Too few to really help. Bill Clinton was the only fresh voice in the Democratic camp because he embraced Conservative economic policies and combined that with a Liberal social outlook. Now Hillary wants to offer more of the ol' Bill and Obama wants to roll back the clock half way to Jimmy Carter. Not exactly new and visionary those two. So, that leaves Bush, and he's run an excellent four year campaign for the Democrats. What they haven't counted on is the Iraq surge actually working. That gave McCain the opening he needed.

If you look at McCain's record, he's the real change, having led almost every burn-down-the-barn political reform movement in Washington for the last two decades and burnt a ton of bridges doing it. His only weakness so far has been renegade status within the conservative establishment, but that's also making him attractive to the moderates.

The only hope of the democrats now is that Bush hatred has roused the left, and McCain hatred has flagged the enthusiasm of the right. Otherwise, barring exigencies, McCain would handily beat either Clinton or Obama come December.

citanon

And speaking of Obama, I was watching an interview of him by (IIRC) Tim Russert, on CBS' 60 minutes. At one point Russert actually started asking details about his policies. Imagine that! What was Obama's response? Okay, he said, you want to talk about policies, right now? Okay, let's talk about policies.

What kind of a guy takes 20 seconds in a TV interview to repeat the interviewer's simple request? A guy who just panicked a little, who's feeling a little fear because he isn't quite comfortable with his command of the issues, who's not quite sure that the other guy can't use some subtle flaw to pick apart his platform.

Obama doesn't quite feel both of his feet on the ground, and all it took was Tim Russert making a simple request to bring that out. That doesn't mean he's not a skilled politician, and it doesn't mean he won't be a lot stronger come November, but right now, he's only doing so well because the media has been giving him a free pass, and his opponent has been rather incompetent.

Hillary has now gotten back the momentum and gone on the attack, and it's a coin toss whether the man will come through through better and stronger or be beaten back bit by bit.

Ray

The Democratic nomination has been a cliff hanger.

It is still open as of now!

I am on CNN right now.

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furkensturker

[quote=dalem;466930]Yeah, we're pretty dumb. No doubt about it.

Garsh but we're dumb.

Dale, are you sure you're not an Aussie?


Cooeee Cobber.

Freddie

JAD_333

Read what you said carefully.

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rj1

This race is heading to the convention in Denver. The primaries and caucuses have produced cumulative enough results to produce close to a stalemate. I'm personally going to enjoy watching it from an entertainment and political junkie standard. Everyone else admit you're enjoying this. Look at the Republicans for example, wouldn't you rather have someone on stage at the National Convention challenging McCain openly on his stance on torture and immigration and McCain having to defend himself whether you agree with him or not? When a convention is scripted to the point that one of the main candidates gets angry when the balloons don't fall at the right time, I don't exactly see how it can be called democracy and the views of the normal American matter in said spectacle.

And for once, my state of North Carolina will actually have a primary that matters!

GAU-8

Gun,

You don't sound racist and yesterday's numbers back up your statement: Clinton won 67 percent of the Latino vote, compared to 31 percent for Obama.

I found the Republican crossover votes interesting. Local and national news sources (from a Google search) are stating that 10% of the Democratic votes cast in the Texas primary were from Republicans. 53% of the crossover votes went to Obama and 46% went to Clinton. Some Republicans want Obama to win the nomination because they don't want Hillary to get the nomination while others want her to win because they feel she'd be easier to beat in the national election.

I wonder if the Independent voter turnout here in Texas shared the same motivation as the Republican crossover votes.

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JAD_333

It's not obligatory, but it's kinda nice when we use words that come reasonably close to expressing our meaning. I don't think "Clinton supporter", quite describes you although you voted for her. BTW, how did it feel pulling the lever for her?