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Old 03-03-2008, 02:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Is this unrealistic?

From my young and relatively inexperienced position as a college sophomore in the Pacific Northwest, the goals Obama makes appear to be unrealistic in terms of political feasibility. With nations like India and Pakistan opting to go nuclear and demonstrate their ability to "project power" and have regional dominance, how easy would this be to accomplish? Is putting a global ban on fissile material a good idea considering the number of nations who are working towards nuclear energy?

As for axing "future combat systems" I'm not sure if he's referring to the Army's FCS program, DoD Transformation or literally all weapons systems currently in development. That too sounds dangerous, to stop research and development to maintain superiority.

The peace he seeks is good and well in intent, but I am not sure if his methods to obtain it are sound. Any ideas?

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Old 03-03-2008, 03:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Obama is either an idealist or he thinks his followers are stupid.

Go through the list of his proposals should he become the president. Everything is either being done (talking to NK and Iran to stop the nuclear proliferation) or more of the same (government not working? throw more money at it).

Name an issue. Look at his policy/proposal. You'll see it's just more government solutions typical of a socialist.

How will he enforce the non-proliferation treaty? Iran signs NPT. Iran decides to give him the finger and start nuclear program again. What does he propose? Talk, talk and more talk.

When a crook is ransacking your house and raping your wife, it is unlikely that you can talk him out of his fun. Socialists seem to think you can. But I'm not gonna take their words at face value.
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Obama is either an idealist or he thinks his followers are stupid.
He may be an idealist, but I doubt he thinks his followers are stupid. In fact, it's his ability to read their mood that makes them followers. There's no mistaking that if you'll take a moment to be objective. But what does he do if he gets elected and succeeds in changing the mood.

As Dave Gardner, the old comedian used to say, "You can't live by bread alone; you have to have peanut butter." That's where he comes up short, as you point out:

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Go through the list of his proposals should he become the president. Everything is either being done (talking to NK and Iran to stop the nuclear proliferation) or more of the same (government not working? throw more money at it).

Name an issue. Look at his policy/proposal. You'll see it's just more government solutions typical of a socialist.

How will he enforce the non-proliferation treaty? Iran signs NPT. Iran decides to give him the finger and start nuclear program again. What does he propose? Talk, talk and more talk.
That's the hopefulness of youth and inexperience talking. It's a clear sign he's not ready to be president.
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Old 03-03-2008, 20:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
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At the lunch table the other day an Hillary Clinton support, frustrated by the political statements I made had enough and elected to have me argue with an Obama supporter. Another liberal friend had said how the Republican party was very divided, and after making a pointed statement I was able to successfully demonstrate how unified the Democratic party was by having the Obama guy attack the Clinton supporter.

Listening to the Obama supporter was interesting in that he was supremely confident that Obama was the only hope. I did not want to get in the way of how Democratic Party functions on a daily basis and opted to stay out of the argument. Even so, it's unfortunate that a political platform based on what unrealistic goals that seem to waste money gathers so many supporters.
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Here's another unrealistic/unlikely scenario:

What if the dems lose again in this election, for whatever the reason?

Will it fracture the party making the far left loons splinter to form their own party? Will they be even more bitter and BMW (biitch moan & whine) even louder for 4 more years? Will they blame Bush, again?

One thing for sure, we know it won't make them look at the mirror to find the problems. It's always someone else's fault.
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:16 AM   #6 (permalink)
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The way it is going, the Republicans seem to be on the path to win!
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Here are some quotes from Barack on the you tube video in the link above:
" I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems"

Why cut R&D on something that has shown to be successful and an asset already? Does he think that countries like china will stop developing missiles that can effectively shoot down satellites in space. Does he think that going around and pleading with people will solve our nuclear problem?

"I will slow our development of future combat systems"

Well, there goes the military yet again. Even in so called "peace" time, we need to maintain a strong military. So he is going to slow development, while other countries are further developing their technology, in turn making it all the more difficult for the military to effectively combat any future threat we may have and result in a higher loss of life and equipment for any conflict. So there goes rotations (as if they are not bad enough already), there goes an even more stressed fleet and military as a whole, there goes more maintenance deferrals so the ships could meet their underway commitments, there goes any chance for well needed improvement.

Instead of these "Veterans against McCain" groups, there should be "Veterans against Obama" groups. Many want the best for the military, and certainly Obama would not be giving the best to the military, but give it fourth rate treatment.

The way things like contracting are dealt with need to be addressed (John F. Lehman Jr. and others of the Reagan administration have proven that already), as well as many other things to improve our military, not down grade it even further. Obama's agenda is quite different. His agenda seems more like demilitarization of our Armed Forces. Would he rather we shoot flowers from our guns at the enemy?
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