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troung · 02-20-2008, 12:46 PM

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So all these choice phrases about how she is only now proud of USA - makes me very angry. and on top of all that - she has a low self esteem because of race. "Wonderful" presidential couple - is you ask me.

Have you read the paper?

Could it in theory have touched on slavery and Jim Crow oppression?

And the comment about being proud was in relation to this election so many people turning out and getting interested in politics.

JohnFlint1985 · 02-20-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by troung

Have you read the paper?

Could it in theory have touched on slavery and Jim Crow oppression?

And the comment about being proud was in relation to this election so many people turning out and getting interested in politics.

are you sure it was only this context as they say it was? cause I am not sure so much anymore. her words are openly threatening. she is thinking of some sort of black crusade that will change the status quo and deliver those who are
"oppressed" from it. Is this the only thing that we will be concerned with for the next 4 years? is this the only problem this country has? and no - I didn't read the paper - but I can very well see what she is talking about - it is in a very fine print - but it is there for everyone with brains to see.

crooks · 02-20-2008, 13:02 PM

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she is not 20 anymore. and she is a spouse of guy who is running for presidency. So all these choice phrases about how she is only now proud of USA - makes me very angry. and on top of all that - she has a low self esteem because of race. "Wonderful" presidential couple - if you ask me.

You said it was for her senior thesis - what age was she when she wrote it?

troung · 02-20-2008, 13:22 PM

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are you sure it was only this context as they say it was? cause I am not sure so much anymore. her words are openly threatening. she is thinking of some sort of black crusade that will change the status quo and deliver those who are
"oppressed" from it. Is this the only thing that we will be concerned with for the next 4 years? is this the only problem this country has? and no - I didn't read the paper - but I can very well see what she is talking about - it is in a very fine print - but it is there for everyone with brains to see.

Openly threatening?

Black crusade?

There was massive oppression for African-Americans over centuries - so you want to refute the thesis? Want to argue that slavery, Jim Crow, KKK violence, and what ever else weren't part of a racial system?

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she is not 20 anymore.

She was in her twenties when she wrote it.

marklv · 02-20-2008, 13:23 PM

Well, at the moment it's looking as if Hillary will pick up Ohio, Rhode Island and Texas. If she does, that will settle it and Obama will lose.

Dreadnought · 02-20-2008, 13:35 PM

Still thinking Hillary and Obama will beat McCain?

Hillary has been sinking because of her idiot husband discussing his politics instead of hers (big surprise) and Obamas wife is quickly digging a racial hole he wont be able to dig out of. She forgets to mention that the "racist Whites" were also partially responisble for footing her bill to law school.In other words open mouth and insert foot and loose election for hubby with statements such as that.

Dreadnought · 02-20-2008, 13:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SteaminDemon

I am not a fan of Obama, and definitely not a fan of Clinton either. If any of them are elected, they will cut the military. Neither one of them have a clue about the military. Senator Clinton makes it like she has been around since 1776. She tries to count the 8 years she was in the white house like she was a part of things that were going on. Then, she wants to tout her 8 years as a New York senator. What has she done as a New York senator? Not much. She let bloomberg, who switched his party so he would win, run amok. Fee's and more taxes, the MTA cooking the books, and still able to increase fares? When is it going to stop? Plain ridiculous.
I remember in 2004 when Hillary said "Me and my husband supported the military" I was so angry at that blatant lie. Gutting it was supporting them?

We should stop the both of them.

Why should someone be forced to buy health care? What about the people that want to rely on natural medicines. They are cheaper and just as effective without the side effects that their counterparts offer. If this country would move on to natural medicines, which a majority of their counterparts are derived from anyway, health care costs associated with medicine would drop substantially. So to fine someone from not buying in to the health care scam is right? Hell no, let people choose on their own free will. If they rely on natural medicine, and therefore would want to cover themselves for hospital visits, and doctor recommendations then let them do so.

Agreed Steamin. Neither of the two canidates have ANY clue military wise. I have always asked the question..How can you control and respect one of the world's (if not thee without stumping it) most powerful militaries that is in constant spotlight and ridicule from many nations without first walking among them. And neither have. People wonder why I side with McCain, Its because he knows exactly what it feels like to be far from home for a long time in absolutely desparable conditions in the "hotel" and although it was a politically challenging conflict he still served so the man certainly has backbone and honor and knows what it is to suffer for his country.

People say he has a hot temper I say so what, what man doesnt under misc. circumstances and anybody who claims not to is but lies.

entropy · 02-20-2008, 13:54 PM

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Originally Posted by crooks

Does this matter?

When I was 20 I hated the US as well, it's a college thing!

I am 20, I'm in what they call college and I like the US (except for them not bombing but being allied to Saudi Barbaria).

Am I sick?

Dreadnought · 02-20-2008, 14:19 PM

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I am 20, I'm in what they call college and I like the US (except for them not bombing but being allied to Saudi Barbaria).

Am I sick?

No my friend its called maturing with political graces.

crooks · 02-20-2008, 14:37 PM

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I am 20, I'm in what they call college and I like the US (except for them not bombing but being allied to Saudi Barbaria).

Am I sick?

I didn't literally mean everyone - but look at your college, how many lefties/enviromentalist/anti-globalisationists are there?

the early 20s are defined by rebellious leftism, it's just the way it is, I was a ready part of it.

Today I define myself as broadly centrist with a fair few leftist leanings, whereas a few years ago I happily identified as a Socialist.

Adux · 02-20-2008, 15:32 PM

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Originally Posted by entropy

I like the US (except for them not bombing but being allied to Saudi Barbaria).

Are you ME

gunnut · 02-20-2008, 16:11 PM

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Originally Posted by troung

Openly threatening?

Black crusade?

There was massive oppression for African-Americans over centuries - so you want to refute the thesis? Want to argue that slavery, Jim Crow, KKK violence, and what ever else weren't part of a racial system?

She was in her twenties when she wrote it.

To say the entire white American is racist is a racist statement in itself. The statement makes a judgement based on skin color and nothing else. If that's not racism, I don't know what is.

gunnut · 02-20-2008, 16:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crooks

I didn't literally mean everyone - but look at your college, how many lefties/enviromentalist/anti-globalisationists are there?

the early 20s are defined by rebellious leftism, it's just the way it is, I was a ready part of it.

Today I define myself as broadly centrist with a fair few leftist leanings, whereas a few years ago I happily identified as a Socialist.

I was a liberal in my late teens early 20s. I believed in progressive taxation and the so called "social contract."

Look at me now.

JohnFlint1985 · 02-20-2008, 16:21 PM

Democratic party will outlive it's usefulness if they will choose someone like Obama and not Clinton. I see no point to vote for them anymore after that.

JohnFlint1985 · 02-20-2008, 16:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnut

To say the entire white American is racist is a racist statement in itself. The statement makes a judgement based on skin color and nothing else. If that's not racism, I don't know what is.

I completely agree.

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Originally Posted by troung

Openly threatening?

Black crusade?

There was massive oppression for African-Americans over centuries - so you want to refute the thesis? Want to argue that slavery, Jim Crow, KKK violence, and what ever else weren't part of a racial system?

She was in her twenties when she wrote it.

She is repeating it today and now. and I feel every uneasy about this agenda of hers today. I understand that there was a time when all this injustice did happen. But I absolutely refuse to be hold accountable to that now. And if she has a problem with her skin color - it is her problem. I don't care about white, black m green, gay or straight. I don;'t literally give a s...t about that. But apparently She does and this whole movement of sycophants - also does. This is not America to me anymore. This is BS. And I will do everything possible to stop this guy reaching the white house.

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Dreadnought *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 05-12-05 Posts: 5,827 Country:	Still thinking Hillary and Obama will beat McCain? Hillary has been sinking because of her idiot husband discussing his politics instead of hers (big surprise) and Obamas wife is quickly digging a racial hole he wont be able to dig out of. She forgets to mention that the "racist Whites" were also partially responisble for footing her bill to law school.In other words open mouth and insert foot and loose election for hubby with statements such as that. __________________ Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure. Last edited by Dreadnought : 02-20-2008 at 13:39 PM.

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marklv Banished Join Date: 11-18-05 Location: Reading, UK Posts: 100 Country:	Well, at the moment it's looking as if Hillary will pick up Ohio, Rhode Island and Texas. If she does, that will settle it and Obama will lose.

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