JohnFlint1985

I think that he is running now as a Black men candidate and only black men. He got 82% of all the blacks in SC primary. It looks like to me that this is going to be his last victory since none of the 22 states on super Tuesday have major African American population with exception of Georgia.
In my personal choice I prefer Clinton to Obama. He is way to left wing for me.

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Julie

Same here.

FibrillatorD

I haven't seen Obama mention race anymore than he has to/is asked about it.

Mostly just an election-year media contrivance

troung

The Clinton's have painted him as the "black man", he hasn't been playing to "race" and since the Clinton's "race" baiting he has gained more "black" support. Time will tell what effect Bill's "race" baiting will have.

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JohnFlint1985

I strongly disagree with the statement where you say that Bill injected Race into the play. Clintons only lost on that. Are you saying they are crazy and don't know what they are doing?
Race was taken out of the context by Obama supporters and spinned out of control in order to get votes and inflame AA to vote for them. But it is ridiculous to paint Clinton as a racist. I'd rather say that ABM is and I have a strong feeling his wife is even more.

Julie

Ditto, Mr. Flint.

I would say Obama's campaign played the race card when Oprah stumped for him in SC. I think the LBJ comment by Hillary, was to invoke a sense of white/black workmanship to bring about change for black people. It was spun as being racist, and Obama got more black momentum out of the votes than he had hoped.

Keep your eyes on the charts on Real Clear Politics. His "bump" from the SC election should kick in about Wednesday on the charts.

My prediction is that he will double-down by Feb. 5. However, I could be wrong.

Ironduke

Bill Clinton was comparing Obama's victory in South Carolina to Jesse Jackson's victories in 1984 and 1988.... if that doesn't have racial undertones, I don't know what does. To me it seemed like he was saying "Jesse Jackson won because he's black, Obama won because he's black."

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dalem

Bill & Hillary are not racists, they are Clintonists. They will do anything and use anyone to get what they want regardless of ethnicity.

-dale

Julie

Agreed, but did you look at the break-down of the votes? Look at it this way....Bill won the majority of the SC black vote TWICE. Edwards won 70% of the black vote when he ran. THEN the Clinton, Edwards, and Obama runs, and Obama gets most of them ???? Come on, there is no way to spin that out of a racial voting bloc given the circumstances I've just stated above.

FibrillatorD

I haven't read the transcript of everything she said, but has it occurred to anyone that S.C. voters were just able to put all the pieces together... what with a debate, for example (on Martin Luther King, Jr. day no less), where ONE candidate has so clearly personified the grassroots mentality which lies at the heart of liberalism?

Newsflash: black voters are liberal.

beansprout

Do you Americans think that If Hillary Clinton was to be voted as president of the U.S, would you think Bill would try to influence the house of congress (or house of parliament. I really dont know since in australia we use the Westminster system) and the American people? since that he is very well known in the states.

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gunnut

I voted for Kucinich because I believe in UFOs. I mean that literally. I marked Kucinich's name on my primary ballot.

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JohnFlint1985

He will always be a factor - this is a given. But I don't think she wants him to run the show - it will make things difficult for her.

Julie

He will try, but from what I know of Hillary, she will probably assign him as Ambassador to the US which will keep him traveling to other countries alot, which will keep him away from the White House.

JohnFlint1985

Let's talk openly here. Obama won SC because he is black and because his campaign invoke the race. Jesse Jackson won the southern states - for the same reason. There is nothing bad in this - it is just the fact of life - black people dream of a black president. Nothing wrong with that for them. But For me - it is a question. Not because I am a racist - absolutely not. But because I expect a candidate for the presidency never invoke this conversation over such a BS that I saw 2 weeks ago. His campaign invoke the race to inflame the discussion, and to make it a factor in the future election. It is easy to understand that once they did - they created a dilemma for people where they vote not for the best candidate, but for the candidate of their race. And Look: 80% AA voted fop Obama, women went to Hillary, white males went to Edwards. In all honesty - he should be ashamed of these results that he provoked. So once they did this - they lost my vote.

I am not voting for the guy who's so many interests seems to be in the black issues. I am not voting for the guy who openly being endorsed by Louis Farrakhan and who visits a church where the pastor is a known antisemitic. And finally - I want a president who don't have a low self esteem and whines about race, about being offended for no reason, about unfair world and etc. He seems to think that he is going to rule some Utopian paradise country with no problems what so ever - and everyone will be just super nice to him. This is very naive and even dangerous position in our time. So this kind of candidate will never get my vote. We have real problems and need real solutions and it is not a time to be offended or call someone a racist once this someone has guts to argue with you and ask you questions.