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Old 11-25-2007, 04:24 AM   #46 (permalink)
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If they apportion by county, they'll need safeguards to ensure that local politics do not prevent the state from casting its electoral votes in a timely fashion. For example, what happens if a dispute over the vote count in a county is not resolved by conventional means and has to be decided in court?

Also, it's conceivable that the most populous counties could cause the state to cast its electorial votes for the loser of the popular vote in the state.

If all the states did as California is considering doing, the president would be chosen by the approximately 3,100 counties in the country, not the states, as we now do it. Happily for some, this is a step closer to choosing the president by a national popular vote. We could go farther. Counties are divided into districts. We could give each district a proportionate number of electorial votes. Finally we would do away with that facade and simply go with one person-one vote and elect the president by the popular vote. Then, we would be back at the problem of a few heavily populated states controlling the outcome of the election.

One thing nice about the electoral college is that it's a failsafe device should some absolute dingbat win the popular vote or a winning candidate turn out to be a serial murderer. The college can simply exercise its constitutional power and not vote for that candidate.
Absolutely!

I like our current system even though my vote technically doesn't figure into the presidential election.

All systems have problems. Ours sacrifices some individual votes to guarantee there's no mob rule.
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Old 11-25-2007, 06:06 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Thanks for the information. Now I am off on "porky' which I take it is a lie or a lame excuse. What's derivation of the word?

Also, what percentage of the electorate take the $20AUD ($17.50US) route rather than vote.

And finally, does it pay to check out whether an errant elector was really at home in bed with the flu...

The way it goes is, you receive a fine. If you have a legit reason; sick or what ever, it's your responsibility to prove that you were in fact sick, out of the country(for an extended period of time, but you can vote at our Embassies).

If you don't have proof; "my car broke down at Woop Woop west, and I was stranded for the day, you must be able to convince the "returns officer" that you're not "telling a porkie or P1$$ing in his pocket" to avoid the fine. You also have the right to appeal to the courts and take it as far as you wish to, even to the High court of Australia, if you're "granted leave" (legal term)to do so. If leave is not granted, Bad luck's gotcha.

If you still don't pay the fine, the Commonwealth of Australia WILL take you to court and you WILL be fined and have costs awarded to you (not the award you want to have). The Commonwealth has the right to pursue the matter to the High court as well; going through the process of "getting leave".

Clear as Mud?

I thought so

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Old 11-28-2007, 07:53 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Dead horse, catsup
Dogs eye, meat pie
Buckleys chance - no chance
Bondi cigar - turd
Kangaroos in the top paddock -- intellectually deprived
The long paddock - roadside
Red sea pedestrian - egyptian
blue - fight



Ok, you English-speaking purists, how about these words you left behind in the colonies and are still in use in Appalachia. First prize is a day at Debbie's
chopping wood...

branch
hippoes
skiff
knee deep
afeared
you'uns
cackleberry
cat's head
airish
whistle pig
kyarn
peaked
A little past plumb
Atter wile
Back door trots
Buss
Cassins
Dead dog tired
Don't swing so big
Dreckly
Fixing to
Gommin' up the table
Herrit
Juberous
Made the riffle
Nussing
Peep-Eye
Pime blank
Play purties
Poor as Job's turkey
Shirky
Shite poke
Slop jar
Spoondiken
This milk's blinky
Too slow to stop quick
Vittles
Weed monkey
Woods colt
I have to admit, I've not heard of a lot of them.

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Looks like the fishing is good today.

You would think these Americans would know how to speak English by now?

Lets see how many know can work out the following. not all are rhyming slang, some are strine.

Dead horse, Tomato sauce
Dogs eye Pie
Horse and cart Fart
Woofie under the Warricks Body odour (warricks means warrick farm, race track)
Skyrocket or Skyrer Pocket
Frog n Toad Road
Pigs ear Beer
Keep calling sir, we'll find you What you say when someone farts
Off like a bucket of prawns in the sun Travelling very fast
egnishner Air Conditioner
almachisit How Much Is It
Buckleys chance Not a hope
Bondi cigar Turd floating off Bondi
Budgie smuglers Speedo swimming togs
Kangaroos in the top paddock Looney
The long paddock The side of the road
Kangawallabat A piece of road kill that has been there for a while, could be a Roo, Wallaby or Wombat
Joe blake Snake
Bookmakers Clarke Shark
Red sea pedestrian Jews
Who flung That bloke in China who makes everything Who Flung Dung
Three wheeler Sheila (female)
Soap dodger Poms
poof Gay person
blue Someone with red hair
curly Someone with no hair
Ginger Ginger beer or rear or Backside
Geographicly embarrassed Lost
Up to your ears and sinking quick. In deep sh1t

That's not a bad starter,
Have fun

The prize for getting them all right is a night out with Tankie, 2nd prise is 2 nights out with Tankie.

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Seeing as not many had a go, above are the meanings.

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As you all know, we've just had an election and we have a change of Government, Mr. Howard was a great friend to George W Bush when Bush needed friends. The first clip is of his commitment to the US Government. The second is when ex PM, Mr. Howard, released a conceding defeat speech.

It would have to be one of the most humbling things I have seen from an outgoing PM.

Also keep in mind, these clips were shown on "free to air" television. And the Americans reckon they have "freedom of speech"


Goodluck in the future Mr. Howard

YouTube - John Howard - Comedy Inc The Late Shift

YouTube - John Howard "**** you!"

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