Hillary doesn't just use PEOPLE.

Bluesman · 10-21-2007, 16:05 PM

Not surprising at all.

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Ouch! Hillary Clinton's softer image is clawed over dumped cat

Sarah Baxter

AS THE “first pet” of the Clinton era, Socks, the White House cat, allowed “chilly” Hillary Clinton to show a caring, maternal side as well as bringing joy to her daughter Chelsea. So where is Socks today?

Once the presidency was over, there was no room for Socks any more. After years of loyal service at the White House, the black and white cat was dumped on Betty Currie, Bill Clinton’s personal secretary, who also had an embarrassing clean-up role in the saga of his relationship with the intern Monica Lewinsky.

Some believe the abandoned pet could now come between Hillary Clinton and her ambition to return to the White House as America’s first woman president.

Clinton has been boosting her prospects in the past week with some homespun references to her gender as part of a series of events with the theme Women Changing America, during which she chatted girlfriend-to-girlfriend and mom-to-mom with female voters.

The softening of Clinton’s image seems to be working. Her chief strategist, Mark Penn, predicts that up to a quarter of Republican women will vote for her. She leads Democratic rivals in the polls by 26 points and is scooping up more donations to her war chest from Wall Street and defence contractors than any candidate from either party – an unmistakable indicator of who they think will win in 2008.

Clinton’s treatment of Socks cuts to the heart of the questions about her candidacy. Is she too cold and calculating to win the presidency? Or does it signify political invincibility by showing she is willing to deploy every weapon to get what she wants?

“In the annals of human evil, off-loading a pet is nowhere near the top of the list,” writes Caitlin Flanagan in the current issue of The Atlantic magazine. “But neither is it dead last, and it is especially galling when said pet has been deployed for years as an all-purpose character reference.”

Flanagan’s article, headed No Girlfriend of Mine, points out that Clinton wrote a crowd-pleasing book Dear Socks, Dear Buddy: Kids’ Letters to the First Pets, in which she claimed that only with the arrival of Socks and his “toy mouse” did the White House “become a home”.

Being Clinton, she also lectured readers that pets are an “adoption instead of an acquisition” and warned them to look out for their safety. (Buddy, the chocolate labrador, it should be noted, bounded into a road soon after leaving the White House and was promptly run over.)

Despite these misadventures, Peggy Noonan, President Ronald Reagan’s former speech-writer, believes Clinton is doing a good job of humanising herself. “I am not saying she has learnt to be herself,” she observed. “I think after a year on the trail she has learnt how not to be herself, how to comfortably adopt a skin and play a part.”

Clinton has been coming up with some teasing one-liners, telling trade unionists “I’m your girl” and laughing on daytime television about the differences between her and her male rivals: “Well, look how much longer it takes me to get ready.”

At another event, she joked about how the other candidates were focusing on her. “I didn’t know what to make of it, and then a friend of mine said, ‘You know when you get to be our age, having that much attention from all these men . . .”

It is a disarming tactic, which her rivals are finding difficult to counter without appearing unchivalrous. But the outline of a “stop Hillary” campaign is taking shape, with critics accusing her of being an inexperienced, flip-flopping opportunist who owes her success purely to dynasty.

Rudy Giuliani, the Republican frontrunner, has sharpened his attacks on Clinton for lacking experience. “She’s never run a city, she’s never run a state, she’s never run a business, she has never met a payroll,” the former New York mayor said. “She has never been responsible for the safety . . . of millions of people.”

He has gone after Clinton’s tax-and-spend policies, including an uncosted suggestion that every newborn child should receive a $5,000 “baby bond” that would grow over time and help pay for college. The last Democratic candidate to propose a similar scheme, George McGovern, lost 49 out of 50 states in the 1972 election.

Soon after Giuliani went on the warpath, Clinton discovered she had other priorities and shelved the idea.

Barack Obama, Clinton’s closest Democratic rival, has begun to criticise her more directly, claiming last week: “We’ve had enough of . . . triangulation and poll-driven politics.” In one such example, Clinton backed a Senate resolution calling the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organisation, earning rebukes from Obama and John Edwards, the third-placed candidate. She then co-sponsored another resolution that would prohibit an attack on Iran without authorisa-tion from Congress.

The financial sleaze that dominated the final Clinton years is also making a comeback. After Norman Hsu, one of Clinton’s biggest campaign “bundlers”, was exposed as a fraud, it emerged last week that waiters, dishwashers and street pedlars in New York’s Chinatown have been handing over $1,000 and $2,000 sums to her campaign – some with genuine pride, others because they were ordered to do so by neighbourhood bosses.

Clinton said last week that her frontrunner status made her uncomfortable. “It makes me nervous and we will still work to earn every vote,” she said.

But the advantage she enjoys with women is considerable. Penn believes the “emotional element” of being the first woman presidential nominee in history will “throw the Republicans for a loop”. So far every attack has bounced off her.

Perhaps the cautionary tale of Socks the cat will make a difference. “Hillary’s insistence that we follow her example in pet ownership, when she really should be on Cat Fancy’s Most Wanted List, makes her a tiresome bore,” Flanagan writes.

“But exploiting the emotions of good-natured people – well, that’s just another example of her three-decade-long drift from the girl she once was to the woman that circumstance and ambition have made her.”

**Julie** · 10-21-2007, 21:03 PM

Have you contacted the SPCA about this ???

Ray · 10-22-2007, 03:19 AM

SPCA?

The Society for Prevention of Committed Argumentors?

Bluesman, I am just have a ball!

I love this Bluesman Julie interactions!

All said and done, Hillary is better looking than Bush!

Now, go on, I have laid the groundwork for some "interesting" discussion this lazy, balmy day!

BTW, Indian origin Jindal will be the Governor of Louisiana!

An inshore outsourcing!

The blasted Indians are really swamping the US!

Now go ahead and sort out the Indians. But remember Jindal is a Republican!

smilingassassin · 10-22-2007, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray

All said and done, Hillary is better looking than Bush!

Good god Ray, you need your eyes checked!

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Originally Posted by Ray

BTW, Indian origin Jindal will be the Governor of Louisiana!

An inshore outsourcing!

The blasted Indians are really swamping the US!

Now go ahead and sort out the Indians. But remember Jindal is a Republican!

Smart man!!

Feanor · 10-22-2007, 12:26 PM

Poor kitty. The only one I can associate with in the entire mess is the cat.

Dreadnought · 10-22-2007, 12:59 PM

Rudy Giuliani, the Republican frontrunner, has sharpened his attacks on Clinton for lacking experience. “She’s never run a city, she’s never run a state, she’s never run a business, she has never met a payroll,” the former New York mayor said. “She has never been responsible for the safety . . . of millions of people.”

Excellent point there Rudy!

**astralis** · 10-22-2007, 14:33 PM

dreadnought,

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Rudy Giuliani, the Republican frontrunner, has sharpened his attacks on Clinton for lacking experience. “She’s never run a city, she’s never run a state, she’s never run a business, she has never met a payroll,” the former New York mayor said. “She has never been responsible for the safety . . . of millions of people.”

Excellent point there Rudy!

not a particularly strong one, IMO. the issues that a president has to deal with is different from the issues that a governor or businessman has to deal with. the issues a senator has to confront is closer to what the president has to deal with.

what clinton needs to demonstrate is not so much experience but her leadership abilities. the way she tried to ram hillary-care showed pretty bad leadership, to say the least; now she has to show that she's changed (if she has

).

Ray · 10-22-2007, 14:42 PM

The thread read "Hillary does not use..."

I wondered if she didn't!

Dreadnought · 10-22-2007, 14:44 PM

Sir,
IMO,Judging by her penchant to criticise those that have those skills already she will find this an uphill battle the entire way. I dont particulary side with Rudy but he does however make a valid point. I think she will be the Demo nominee but my belief is the Americans want a strong leader and she IMO certainly is not it. She will pan for this and that as with the 5,000 bonus for each child but anybody can see straight through who will foot that bill. If she were to be elected I would almost bet the economy goes teets up. With the housing market the way it is I dont think the people will go for it. Not too mention the countries that would never take her seriously. And just imagine the impact of her party's criticism of the troops and leaders. I dont think she will make it. Just my opinion.

Ray · 10-22-2007, 14:52 PM

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but my belief is the Americans want a strong leader

Bluesman for President!

At least that is how I shall get the unit pendant he promised!

Bluesman · 10-22-2007, 15:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray

Bluesman for President!

At least that is how I shall get the unit pendant he promised!

You're so right, and I am SO SORRY! I'll get it in the mail soonest...but PM me your address; I lost it in the move.

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Originally Posted by Ray

An inshore outsourcing!

Now, THAT is FUNNY!

HAH!

gunnut · 10-22-2007, 17:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray

All said and done, Hillary is better looking than Bush!

I wouldn't say better looking. Less goofy, maybe. Certainly meaner.

10-22-2007, 03:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 27,281 Country:	SPCA? The Society for Prevention of Committed Argumentors? Bluesman, I am just have a ball! I love this Bluesman Julie interactions! All said and done, Hillary is better looking than Bush! Now, go on, I have laid the groundwork for some "interesting" discussion this lazy, balmy day! BTW, Indian origin Jindal will be the Governor of Louisiana! An inshore outsourcing! The blasted Indians are really swamping the US! Now go ahead and sort out the Indians. But remember Jindal is a Republican! __________________ "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination." I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to. HAKUNA MATATA Last edited by Ray : 10-22-2007 at 03:24 AM.

10-22-2007, 12:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
Dreadnought *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 05-12-05 Posts: 5,534 Country:	Rudy Giuliani, the Republican frontrunner, has sharpened his attacks on Clinton for lacking experience. “She’s never run a city, she’s never run a state, she’s never run a business, she has never met a payroll,” the former New York mayor said. “She has never been responsible for the safety . . . of millions of people.” Excellent point there Rudy! __________________ Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.

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Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 27,281 Country:	The thread read "Hillary does not use..." I wondered if she didn't!

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Dreadnought *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 05-12-05 Posts: 5,534 Country:	Sir, IMO,Judging by her penchant to criticise those that have those skills already she will find this an uphill battle the entire way. I dont particulary side with Rudy but he does however make a valid point. I think she will be the Demo nominee but my belief is the Americans want a strong leader and she IMO certainly is not it. She will pan for this and that as with the 5,000 bonus for each child but anybody can see straight through who will foot that bill. If she were to be elected I would almost bet the economy goes teets up. With the housing market the way it is I dont think the people will go for it. Not too mention the countries that would never take her seriously. And just imagine the impact of her party's criticism of the troops and leaders. I dont think she will make it. Just my opinion.

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