Ray

Yes hearts and mind is the crux.

But doesn't sound very macho, what?

Macho should be in deed and not histrionics!

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dalem

Please. We have whole threads devoted to the exposition of the Plamegate affair as nothing but a sound and fury witch hunt, and one based on two lies at that. Because a) Plame wasn't a covert agent, and b) It was Richard Armitage who gave her name out and Fitzgerald knew that from almost the beginning of his long charade.

And since when does "FBI" equate to "Republicans"?

-dale

Shek

WILSON: My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity.

She wasn't undercover, and so she wasn't leaked. You can't blow the cover of an agent that's not under cover.

Yet again, you can't even get the facts straight when viewing through your partisan rant lens.

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Bluesman

Did you know that it was RICHARD ARMITAGE that leaked Plame's name? Did you know that Armitage was an opponent of Bush's policy, viz Iraq?

Doubt it. What you don't know - but still talk about - would choke WAB's servers.

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Shek

1. The prosecutor obviously disagreed with the CIA, as no criminal charge was ever filed.

2. Are you taking it out of context? You seem to be taking Blitzer's assertion as Wilson's words and then inferring what you want to out of it.

3. Her claim of being NOC doesn't line up with the tradecraft practiced by other CIA veterans.

Broken

What Fitzgerald said:

This is a very serious matter and compromising national security information is a very serious matter. But the need to get to the bottom of what happened and whether national security was compromised by inadvertence, by recklessness, by maliciousness is extremely important. We need to know the truth. And anyone who would go into a grand jury and lie, obstruct and impede the investigation has committed a serious crime.I will say this: Mr. Libby is presumed innocent. He would not be guilty unless and until a jury of 12 people came back and returned a verdict saying so..


Blitzer was asking why Wilson would go to Vanity Fair if his wife was Covert. Wilson said her cover was already blown by Novak.
Fine. You go with the Chicago Trib. I will go with the Director of the CIA, the Justice Department, and Fitzgerald.

Wraith601

That would require the post to actually iclude substance. His post is nothing but a random collection of big words and stupid cliches, that says nothing.

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Wraith601

1. Valerie Plume - already expounded on

2. FBI - Like dale said, how is FBI synomous with Republican? Law enforcements agencies misused and abused their powers during Clinton's terms in office, did that make him responsible?

3. Just because noboy else subscribes to your silly little "ignore them and they'll go away" tactic (I use the term loosely) doesn't mean they're wrong.

Try harder next time.

Shipwreck

More or less in the same vein : the War On Assassins (WOA).

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Julie

Plame still made a good point in her testimony. The leak was a breach of national security in that intelligence agents abroad would be hesitant in cooperating with us in terrorism intelligence. I feel that is a very good point. Who leaked it, or why, nothing was done by the Administration to prosecute them so one would be hesitate allow it to happen again.

When the Administration treated this leak in a hands-off approach after Bush promised he would dismiss anyone responsible, that told me the Executive Branch had a hand in the leak.

Ray

Could it be because it was an 'inside' job?

Julie

Yes, and the jury in the Libby case even stated such.

Parihaka

Righty ho, anyway, back to topic.

In a flash of inspiration whilst pontificating toward the general direction of the long-suffering Garry, and keeping in mind the upcoming Democratic administration, the replacement for 'The War On Terror' came to me:

the "International Peace Initiative"



Huh, huh, not bad huh?
All squeezy and PC, and yet covers a multitude of sins whilst avoiding all those yucky words like war and terror.
The carrot munchers can rest safely in bed knowing the troops are out their initiating peace all over the globe!

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Dreadnought

Pari have you been studying in France lately?

House Democrats are such a bunch of whining politically correct pussies it makes me sick!

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Shipwreck

Do you consider this guy as one of these *whining politically correct pussies* ?