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Old 01-19-2007, 15:49 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Please. His being Muslim or non-Muslim is simply not going to be in play - no one cares.

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Old 01-19-2007, 22:52 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Please. His being Muslim or non-Muslim is simply not going to be in play - no one cares.

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It took almost 180 years for a Roman Catholic to win the Presidency and there were questions about his allegiance to to Pope. Americans do not trust what they do not understand. In America today, people do not understand Islam.
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Old 01-19-2007, 23:26 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I think the Muslim angle may make some people pause a bit, but allegiances in religion for Obama I think are fairly a moot point for most of the public. Reason is that this will most likely be seen as desperation on Hillary's end. She isn't the brightest log in the fire. She is upset that she may lose some monetary support and then flings poo. This sentence says volumes - "The sources said Ms. Clinton regards Mr. Obama as her most formidable opponent and the biggest obstacle to the Democratic Party’s 2008 presidential nomination. They said Ms. Clinton has been angered by Mr. Obama's efforts to tap her supporters for donations."

Hillary made herself look more weak to those such as myself who regard her as a horrible role model for women for the choices she has made in her life and that is the biggest reason why she would never get my vote. She shot herself in the foot on this one and did more harm to her credibility - what little of it there was to begin with.
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Old 01-20-2007, 00:02 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Actually I think that's a brilliant strategy on Hillary's part. She never attacks or even questions the fact that Obama is a muslim. She asks "why" Obama had never mentioned the fact that he is a muslim, lived in Indonesia and attended a madrasa.

Obama mentioned in his book that his father herded goats. But his grandfather was a rich man. His father was of priviledged upbringing. He wasn't a simple villager.

Obama likes to play the "African" angle. Yet he downplays the fact that his grandfather was a devout muslim, named his father "Barak," Arabic for "blessed one." His father thought so highly of the name that he named his own son "Barak."

Attacking someone's credibility is an unbelievably effective tool. It plants doubts. If this man has lied in the past, can we trust him in the future? What else is he holding back? Is he lying right now? I was on a jury once where the plantif was clearly guilty. But the defense lawyer attacked the prosecution witness's credibility to get his client off. He never said his client was innocent. He questioned the story presented by the prosecution.
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Obama = Edwards of today?
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:34 AM   #21 (permalink)
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It all depends upon how Obama plays it. He could let Hillary push the matter a whole lot to the point where it almost seems bigotry. He has a very good recent case to keep as an example - Keith Ellison's. Ellison completely ended up as a nice guy being hounded by bigots. If he can get Hillary to push the matter so much that she goes overboard, he'd have his own little political trick to play.
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:39 AM   #22 (permalink)
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It all depends upon how Obama plays it. He could let Hillary push the matter a whole lot to the point where it almost seems bigotry. He has a very good recent case to keep as an example - Keith Ellison's. Ellison completely ended up as a nice guy being hounded by bigots. If he can get Hillary to push the matter so much that she goes overboard, he'd have his own little political trick to play.
I don't think the Clinton Campaign team will screw it up. They have the most experienced and well financed team with them. She'll be like "he is very talented, but unfortunately inexperienced" .. in fact Obama makes Hillary look good.

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Old 01-20-2007, 07:26 AM   #23 (permalink)
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It all depends upon how Obama plays it. He could let Hillary push the matter a whole lot to the point where it almost seems bigotry.
She would never do that, this is all you will hear about it until just before crunch time when there will be a one liner as the b-focus of a 30s slot. That's all that is required.
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Old 01-20-2007, 08:44 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Americans do not trust what they do not understand. In America today, people do not understand Islam.
The more Americans understand the current islamist movement, the more they will find to distrust.
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It took almost 180 years for a Roman Catholic to win the Presidency and there were questions about his allegiance to to Pope. Americans do not trust what they do not understand. In America today, people do not understand Islam.
Sure we do - first you hear "Allahu Akhbar!", then somebody dies rather messily.

Thing is, Obama doesn't strike me as a Muslim. He strikes me as a practicing Lefty, and that's what will prevent me from ever considering him for office.

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Old 01-20-2007, 15:03 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Obama = Edwards of today?
Nahh. Edwards is nothing but an empty suit. Obama has presence and comes across as affable, from what little I know.

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It all depends upon how Obama plays it. He could let Hillary push the matter a whole lot to the point where it almost seems bigotry. He has a very good recent case to keep as an example - Keith Ellison's. Ellison completely ended up as a nice guy being hounded by bigots. If he can get Hillary to push the matter so much that she goes overboard, he'd have his own little political trick to play.
Ellison and CAIR are just a front for the islamist movement in the USA. They are terrorists as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 01-20-2007, 19:29 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Why does it matter at all, if he is muslim or not???

Yes. Why does this even matter ???
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Old 01-20-2007, 19:34 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Oh man, I guess I should have read these least few posts first. Now these are more the stereotypical responses of ignorance the rest of the world expects from Americans. Glad you folks haven’t let me down. You do, after all, have a reputation to live up to.
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So you, the great morally superior Canadian, are justified in stereotyping Americans because some Americans stereotype Muslims?
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