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rickusn · 03-27-2006, 23:59 PM

"So far the unit cost for all models has gone up by quite a bit vs the original pie in the sky estimates."

"predictibally " LOL

"Since the Navy has incorporated Marine Squadrons in the CAWs do you think they will require the MC to buy into the carrier version for interoperability/mant support issue while afloat?"

Hasnt been decided yet. There are pros and cons to either approach.

I posted excerpts on it somwhere. Maybe Sniper remembers where?

Anyway thats beside the point.

Remember the key issue.:

Eliminating the USMC.

Ive been mulling it over and come to the conclusion Snipers absolutely right.

Not only is it doable but may even save money which I diidnt think it would at first glance.

Of course my scenario makes it easier to save cash with some serious downsizing of the USN thrown in.

First:

Cut back the Carrier force to 10.

Cut back the # of carrier air wings to 8.

The USN should consider opting out of the JSF..

And leave it an USAF program only.

That means the 10 squadrons earmarked for carrier duty are no longer neccessary. Thats almost 1/2 the total of the USMC's 21 squadrons.

And another up to seven squadrons can be scratched if the USAF doesnt want to supply a !/2 dozen aircaraft each to a much reduced (12 to 8 or 9) number of ESG's.

That leaves four squadrons to transition to the USAF if they want to maintain them.

Second integrate the USMC ground and helo forces into the Army.

Stand up one division as the Amphibious Assault division with nine battalion landing teams to provide forces to serve aboard the ESG's amphibious ship component.

Turn the rest into the Army's new syle Brigade Combat teams

Third integrate whats left of the USMC TacAir(if nay) and other fixed wing aviation into the USAF.

It is quite clear that the US is never going to undertake a WWII style amphibious assault. But it would be advisable to maintain a modicum of capability.

The rest of the USMC operates very simiilar to the ARmy otherwise and might as well be part of the Army.

While we are at it put all USN & USAF Special Forces units and helo assets in the ARmy.

This is all doable.

Especially with all the money saved downsizing the USN.

Sorry GG.

03-27-2006, 23:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
rickusn *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-09-03 Posts: 1,317	"So far the unit cost for all models has gone up by quite a bit vs the original pie in the sky estimates." "predictibally " LOL "Since the Navy has incorporated Marine Squadrons in the CAWs do you think they will require the MC to buy into the carrier version for interoperability/mant support issue while afloat?" Hasnt been decided yet. There are pros and cons to either approach. I posted excerpts on it somwhere. Maybe Sniper remembers where? Anyway thats beside the point. Remember the key issue.: Eliminating the USMC. Ive been mulling it over and come to the conclusion Snipers absolutely right. Not only is it doable but may even save money which I diidnt think it would at first glance. Of course my scenario makes it easier to save cash with some serious downsizing of the USN thrown in. First: Cut back the Carrier force to 10. Cut back the # of carrier air wings to 8. The USN should consider opting out of the JSF.. And leave it an USAF program only. That means the 10 squadrons earmarked for carrier duty are no longer neccessary. Thats almost 1/2 the total of the USMC's 21 squadrons. And another up to seven squadrons can be scratched if the USAF doesnt want to supply a !/2 dozen aircaraft each to a much reduced (12 to 8 or 9) number of ESG's. That leaves four squadrons to transition to the USAF if they want to maintain them. Second integrate the USMC ground and helo forces into the Army. Stand up one division as the Amphibious Assault division with nine battalion landing teams to provide forces to serve aboard the ESG's amphibious ship component. Turn the rest into the Army's new syle Brigade Combat teams Third integrate whats left of the USMC TacAir(if nay) and other fixed wing aviation into the USAF. It is quite clear that the US is never going to undertake a WWII style amphibious assault. But it would be advisable to maintain a modicum of capability. The rest of the USMC operates very simiilar to the ARmy otherwise and might as well be part of the Army. While we are at it put all USN & USAF Special Forces units and helo assets in the ARmy. This is all doable. Especially with all the money saved downsizing the USN. Sorry GG. Last edited by rickusn : 03-28-2006 at 00:03 AM.