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Old 02-02-2006, 14:51 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Dreadnought
Gautam, I am not at all familiar what goes on between India and Pakistan and I will be the first to say that with exception of what flashes across CNN. So whatever the problem may be I dont know perhaps you can enlighten me.

I know briefly of one problem and that is Khan. And Agreeably its a big problem.

Outside of this problem with Khan. Why do India and Pakistan dislike each other so much?

I do agree that anybody that breaks the NPT should go in front of the IAE.
I dont agree with the punishment that Khan was given for his actions as i recognize that you disagree with it as well. They should have faced the very same as everybody else will.

India should do whatever is in their best interest. As im sure Pakistan will do the very same. I think we all agree that Iran having a nuclear weapon is not in the best interest of anybody but Iran.

With regards to the comments made by Iranian President, well its not a hidden secret that he is a dickhead afterall. But lets put things in prespective, I have many jewish friends and I guess we all agree on the fact that Iran doesn't have the balls 2 face Israel. They know Israel will kick their ass to stone age which theys showed in the Arab-Israeli war

Yeah I agree I would love to see Israel stomp the snot out of them because of the remarks and threats they make. I have friends that are Jewish but they dont speak about this. Perhaps they do amonst themselves I dont know.

As I get time I will read more about India and Pakistan. I could probably ask my professor in school since he happens to be from I believe India. But he may not be so quick to give his opinion on politics. But in the mean time could you tell me briefly why they fight so much?

Well there is no simple answer and I will give you my side, (Keep in mind that there always 2 sides 2 a story, so it is up 2 u DreadNought to believe whichever side u want 2)

Pakistan used 2 be a part of India till 1947. When it became apparent to the British that their Raj was nearing its end in India they tried 2 play already fighting All India Muslim League led by Mohd Jinnah (Founder of Pakistan) against the All India National Congress.

A mixture of these two forced these 2 parties so apart that by 1947 it was evident that india would be partitioned into two, i.e. a Muslim dominated Pakistan and a secular India.
The irony here was that the only muslim majority state i.e. Kashmir was ruled by a Hindu ruler, and that Kashmir was a princely state which under the treaties of time negotiated by British rested the right with the ruler of a princely state to join whichever union i.e. India or Pakistan it wanted.

15th of Aug 1947, India got its freedom but still the ruler of Kashmir Maharaja Hari Singh was undecided. Pakistan in 1948 started infiltrating Kashmir valley with soldiers expecting local muslims would revolt and join Pakistan.
But things did not go acc to plan, Maharaja Hari Singh did not have the force to protect his state from these infiltrators and thus signed the treaty of accession with India which allowed Indian soldiers to fight in Kashmir and drive out these infiltrators.

Now for 50 years Pakistan has disputed the signing of this document etc etc

Indian army managed to drive out infiltrators, but Pakistan managed to hold on to 1/3rd of Kashmir known as POK Pakistani occupied Kashmir today.

This was also precceeded by rioting as around 20 million Hindus, Sikhs & Muslims crossed borders as the partition had left many in wrong areas. It is estimated that more than 2 million Hindus, Sikhs & muslims died in the riots which further alienated these 2 nations.

This was followed by a stalemate war in 1965 when Pakistan tried 2 act smart, followed by a humialating defeat in 1971 when an army company of 600 soldiers led by Major Kuldeep Singh Chandpuri managed to defeat a 4000 strong infantry backed by 40 tanks.

Hatred was further fueled by the insurgency which began in 1989 in Kashmir which has cost more than 50,000 lives till today.

Pakistan made yet another unsuccessful attempt in 1999 in Kargil, which was again foiled by the Indian army. Rest is history.

It all comes down 2 Kashmir but what one thing Pakistan never understands is that
a) India will never let go of Kashmir
B) Paksitan may be able to fool the world by preaching that these so called terrorists are freedom fighters but it will never be able 2 fool us for 2 believe Pakistan on anything would be a mistake.

This is a summary of all the events since independence.
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