Sir,
You are making this an emotional argument when one is not needed.
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Get back to me when you have smelled dead bodies rotting in the sun for a week.
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Sir,
How does that
actually affect what I am talking about? What assertion of mine is that relevant to?
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You're speaking of military matters which requires military expertise to which you have absolutely none. Don't try for one second to tell me you know what war is like. You don't. I don't care what you've read, what you've seen on TV, what you've imagined. You don't know war. Don't insult us who've seen war.
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Sir,
Find specifically where I have made a factual or logical error. If you cannot, then I suggest you do not lecture me about my lack of military experience. You are shouting at a wall, since I have never claimed I had military experience.
Remember, I have made numerous disclaimers about my lack of military experience. Nonetheless, you will have to find specific errors if you want to attack my argument. A charge of inexperience
alone is not a valid argument.
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It DOES deal greatly with the sense and strategy of the United States. I've sworn the Queen's Oath. Your countrymen has sworn to defend the Consitution of the United States. We are all above all else Men of Honour who will NEVER render meaningless nor allow to be render meanlingless the Honour of our countries and flags. We will NEVER shame nor willingly allow our countries to be shame. Sometimes, that cannot be helped in an effort to pursue victory but do not for one second believe that will the Honour of our countries come to harm simply because of military expidence.
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Sir,
I am not advocating bringing shame to a nation. Find where I have. If you can, I will see if I can explain my point better so that it is more acceptable to you.
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The business of war. That's a good one. That's a load of horse manure. War is war.
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So what is incorrect?
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Know what, little boy and that is what you are, a little boy. I ain't going to get it through your head that war is a damned ugly thing and nukes are ugliest of the ugliest than anything you can imagined. You ain't got the points of reference. You haven't puke your guts out from sight alone of dead and dying bodies. You haven't seen what I've seen. You haven't lost friends because you've screwed up. You don't have my nightmares. Don't pretend you do. You don't.
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Sir,
Again, you are not pointing out where I have made specific errors. I respect you as a soldier and as my senior in age, experience, and knowledge of military matters. We have had scholarly military discussions in the past (albeit rather one-way). I would like to have another one.
The argument at hand is about the strategic and military ideas concerning nuclear weapons. We all know war is ugly, but that is not what I am arguing. In fact, you were the one that started this rather circuitous tour-de-force of battlefield emotions and guilt.
Although, I must admit, I do enjoy actually getting into a heated argument once more. Ah, where is Sniper? Bring him back and we can reunite the old triumvirate of hate.