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Sombra · 01-11-2006, 06:31 AM

[quote=Praxus]How about you address my argument, instead of rehashing the same false opinions over and over again.

I fail to understand your problem. Everything in existence, from matter, to causality, to the 'vaccum' of space is part of the Universe. So there can not be anything outside of the Universe, because by definition it would not exist! So I ask again, where does the Universe expand to, if there is NOWHERE for it to expand?

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Praxus: Please correct me if I understand you wrongly. The universe needs "space" to expand into? Your other point that per definiton the universe is everything?

1. Regarding your first argument:From all we know even space itself or what you call vaccum could / or is expanding! What is outside the boundaries or what are we expanding into we don´t really know because we lack simply a system of reference to even imagine what is outside our universe. From all we know one day, here coming back to Dalems ballon example, the universe was 2 light years across the next minute it was bigger 2,000001 light years (making up the numbers)

I think you imagine yourself the big bag as a big explosion in a per definition endless room . The matter therefore is simply spread in a 3 dimensional room.

2. Regarding your other point that the universe is per definiton everything: Well, that is now philosophie right? Simply saying something doesn´t make right though. I could say you are dead and you will be still alive. It is a simply word exchange where nobody can be right because we simply define the word universe differentially.

01-11-2006, 06:31 AM	#72 (permalink)
Sombra Patron Join Date: 11-27-04 Posts: 274	[quote=Praxus]How about you address my argument, instead of rehashing the same false opinions over and over again. I fail to understand your problem. Everything in existence, from matter, to causality, to the 'vaccum' of space is part of the Universe. So there can not be anything outside of the Universe, because by definition it would not exist! So I ask again, where does the Universe expand to, if there is NOWHERE for it to expand? QUOTE] Praxus: Please correct me if I understand you wrongly. The universe needs "space" to expand into? Your other point that per definiton the universe is everything? 1. Regarding your first argument:From all we know even space itself or what you call vaccum could / or is expanding! What is outside the boundaries or what are we expanding into we don´t really know because we lack simply a system of reference to even imagine what is outside our universe. From all we know one day, here coming back to Dalems ballon example, the universe was 2 light years across the next minute it was bigger 2,000001 light years (making up the numbers) I think you imagine yourself the big bag as a big explosion in a per definition endless room . The matter therefore is simply spread in a 3 dimensional room. 2. Regarding your other point that the universe is per definiton everything: Well, that is now philosophie right? Simply saying something doesn´t make right though. I could say you are dead and you will be still alive. It is a simply word exchange where nobody can be right because we simply define the word universe differentially.